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+**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 17 07:59:14 2002
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+--> Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) has joined #rockbox
+--- Topic for #rockbox is Open Source Jukebox Firmware - http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/
+--- Topic for #rockbox set by Zagor at Fri Apr 12 15:45:52
+--> Zagor2 (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) has joined #rockbox
+--- Zagor2 is now known as Zagor
+<Zagor> morning
+<Bagder> hey
+<Zagor> cool hack of the day:
+<Zagor> Adbusters is buying a 30 second commercial spot on CNN tomorrow
+<Zagor> and they're airing....nothing
+<Bagder> :-)
+--> wavey (~wavey@dlan1431.dircon.co.uk) has joined #rockbox
+<Zagor> 30 second black screen
+<Bagder> at least it was cheap to manifacture ;-)
+<Zagor> hehe
+<wavey> morn, boys
+<Bagder> hey wavey
+<Zagor> hi wavey
+<Zagor> apparently the spot cost $5000 to purchase
+<wavey> i tried compiling firmware last night, and it complained of missing .h files
+<wavey> fakestore or something
+<Zagor> yeah, that's the fat code. it's not compilable
+<wavey> ah.
+<wavey> ok
+<wavey> is it normal to have noncompilable code in cvs?
+<wavey> in a major build target?
+<Zagor> not really, but this is the first version of most files
+<wavey> hmm
+<wavey> i guess
+<Bagder> it hasn't really set yet
+<wavey> what's there looks good
+<wavey> i got most of it compiled on windows thru cygwin
+<Bagder> that cool
+<Bagder> that's 
+<wavey> needed to mod the makefile to include cygwin's distributed include dirs, etc
+<wavey> once we have a compilable codebase, we should mandate that it's always compilable from then on - sensible?
+<Bagder> yes
+<Bagder> imho
+<wavey> otherwise it holds up dev
+<Bagder> indeed, there will be many people using the code base then
+<Bagder> but feel free to correct the problems and mail us patches! ;-)
+<wavey> sure - will do :)
+--> linus__ (~linus@labb.contactor.se) has joined #rockbox
+--- Bagder gives channel operator status to Zagor
+<wavey> can someone add me as a registered dev on the rockbox sourceforge project pls
+<wavey> mister_wavey is my sf login
+* Bagder points in Zagor's direction
+<Zagor> sure
+<wavey> cheers
+<Bagder> today's security flaw: IE back button ;-)
+<wavey> heh
+<wavey> which webapp is misbehaving?
+<Bagder> the back button can run javascript
+<Zagor> stuart martin, mister_wavey, Developer
+<wavey> zag: lovely
+<Bagder> wavey: to commit anything to CVS, you need to checkout the repo using ssh first
+<Bagder> before you did it read-only
+<linus__> Strange. When I connect from work, I am allowed to use the nick "Linus", but not from home. ???
+<Bagder> linus__: muh is still running and uses it probably
+<Zagor> that's because from work you are connecting via "muh", which is holding the Linus name for you
+<linus__> AAh IC.
+<linus__> Bagder: muh is running on labb, or...?
+<Zagor> yes
+<linus__> Så hur kopplar jag upp mig mot den?
+* Bagder detects swedish BZZZZZ
+* Bagder grins
+<Zagor> connect your irc client to labb:9997
+<linus__> OK. CU!
+<-- linus__ has quit ("Client Exiting")
+--> Linus (~linus@labb.contactor.se) has joined #rockbox
+<Bagder> tadaaa
+<Linus> WOW! It worked!
+<Bagder> nomad claims 22 hours battery time
+<Bagder> http://www.nomadworld.com/products/Jukebox3/
+<Zagor> ...and the reviews report 10-12 hours
+<Bagder> :-)
+<Linus> I got my soldering station yesterday. I made another debugging cable just to test it.
+<Bagder> ... and now you sell it to the highest bidder? B-]
+<Zagor> ah, good. because i got my archos swapped today!
+<Linus> Rock'n'roll!
+* Bagder reads "Any one out there linking the curl C library with a COBOL program?"
+<Bagder> :-)
+* Bagder bounces, a commit mail from wavey!
+<wavey> heh
+<wavey> cygwin makes hell bearable
+<Bagder> yeah, cygwin's pretty decent
+<wavey> i've installed cygwin's ssh
+<Zagor> lunch
+<wavey> does the use of ssh produce a public key somewhere on my filesystem>
+<wavey> ?
+<wavey> or do i need to make my own
+<Bagder> you don't need one if you don't want to
+<Bagder> but ssh-keygen makes them
+<wavey> i'd like to store the key with sourceforge
+<Bagder> ah, then ssh-keygen is the answer
+<Bagder> -t dsa or -t rsa
+<Bagder> depending on which kind of key you want
+<Bagder> or one at a time to get both kinds
+<Bagder> they're normally store in ~/.ssh
+<Bagder> stored
+<wavey> do i want a passphrase on this?
+<Bagder> yes
+<wavey> ok cool
+<wavey> how long does a cvs login session last for?
+<Bagder> forever
+<wavey> ok cool
+<Bagder> until you logout
+<wavey> ok waiting for the sourceforge batch process to use my key :)
+<Bagder> ok
+<Bagder> yes, it's nicer that way
+<Bagder> the cvs page isn't complete in that aspect either...
+<Bagder> as it doesn't explain the whole process to get the no-prompting to work
+<wavey> well, the ssh-keygen would be a useful addition
+<Bagder> yes
+<Bagder> you'll also need to run ssh-agent and ssh-add
+--> alkorr (jbcoax@srs07v-3-253.n.club-internet.fr) has joined #rockbox
+<alkorr> hi
+<alkorr> good it works with WinCVS now (much easier to add or to update than with CVS command line)
+<-- alkorr has quit (Client Quit)
+<wavey> yuk
+<wavey> GUIs are evil
+<wavey> except directory browsers, i guess
+<Bagder> I agree
+<wavey> and therefore cvs integration makes sense
+<Bagder> people tell me the wincvs interface is really crappy though
+<wavey> ssh-agent and ssh-add are needed where?
+<Bagder> when sf knows your key
+<wavey> ok, what do i need to do?
+<Bagder> run "eval `ssh-agent`" and then "ssh-add"
+<Bagder> it starts an "agent" for your key
+<Bagder> and adds your key to it
+<Bagder> which then passes it to the server when used
+<wavey> ah
+<wavey> ok taa
+<Bagder> so for ssh-add you need to enter your pass phrase
+<Bagder> once
+<Bagder> and after that all cvs operations are with no prompts
+<Bagder> now, I honestly don't know how to put that short and nice in the cvs web page ;-)
+<wavey> :)
+<wavey> ooh
+<wavey> still being prompted - c'mon sf! get your batches running! :)
+<Bagder> you'll see on the prompt when you can expect the non-prompt to work
+<Bagder> it depends on which pass phrase it asks for
+<wavey> and the passphrase for the key is good for the length of the login session?
+<Bagder> um, yes, but the "login" session with ssh is just the single operation. unless you meant the passphrase to ssh-add which is good as long as you keep ssh-agent running
+<wavey> ah ok
+<wavey> and to restart the agent after reboot?
+<wavey> eval `ssh-agent` again?
+<Bagder> yes
+<wavey> coolio
+<Bagder> then ssh-add and add your pass phrase
+<Bagder> s/add/enter
+<wavey> ok
+<wavey> how do i get on the cvs notification list?
+<wavey> i couldn't see instructions anywhere
+<wavey> the mail archive needs a search tool too, ideally
+<Bagder> Björn mailed about it
+<Bagder> yes it does
+<Bagder> To get these mails, send a mail to majordomo@cool.haxx.se, with the text (no subject) "subscribe rockbox-cvs".
+<wavey> aha, just found it :) thanks
+**** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Apr 17 12:25:54 2002
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