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1 | **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 14 02:27:04 2002 | ||
2 | |||
3 | --> adiamas (~adiamas@216.194.26.146) has joined #rockbox | ||
4 | --- Topic for #rockbox is Version 1.0 released! http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/ | ||
5 | --- Topic for #rockbox set by ChanServ at Tue Jun 11 03:31:20 | ||
6 | <Bagder> hey adiamas | ||
7 | <adiamas> hey ya... | ||
8 | <adiamas> now that i have my UPS set up... | ||
9 | <adiamas> im finally going to get around to get a cross compiler going :) | ||
10 | <Bagder> go go go ;-) | ||
11 | --- You are now known as adi|home | ||
12 | <Bagder> following Linus' instruction, it is really simple | ||
13 | <adi|home> *nmods* | ||
14 | <adi|home> only prob is im running gcc 2.95 right now :) | ||
15 | <Bagder> that shouldn't matter | ||
16 | <Bagder> if you have the source for that one already, you can probably make a cross compiler out of that version | ||
17 | <adi|home> that reminds me... | ||
18 | <adi|home> the simulator was coring on me yesterday | ||
19 | <adi|home> when i shuffled the playlist | ||
20 | <adi|home> i tracked it.. but it made no sense | ||
21 | <Bagder> oh | ||
22 | <Bagder> can you repeat it now? | ||
23 | <adi|home> dunno.. was going to test in a few | ||
24 | <Bagder> ok | ||
25 | <Bagder> it cored yesterday when we messed around with an empty dir | ||
26 | <adi|home> how do i force fstab to be reread? | ||
27 | <adi|home> on linux? | ||
28 | <adi|home> do you know? | ||
29 | <Bagder> reread? | ||
30 | <Bagder> mount -a? | ||
31 | <Bagder> no, that only mounts all | ||
32 | <adi|home> my prob is this.. | ||
33 | <adi|home> i have my archos mount with the same permissions that my floppy does | ||
34 | <adi|home> at least thats what the fstab tells me | ||
35 | <adi|home> i can mount the floppy as a user, but not the archos | ||
36 | <dwihno> you have the nouser flag? | ||
37 | <adi|home> nope | ||
38 | <adi|home> /dev/sda1 /mnt/archos vfat noauto,owner 0 0 | ||
39 | <Bagder> ok, so you changed that but the user still can do it? | ||
40 | <adi|home> no... | ||
41 | <adi|home> as a user i can mount my floppy, but as a user i cannot mount my archos | ||
42 | <adi|home> and my floppy entry is the same | ||
43 | <adi|home> /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner 0 0 | ||
44 | <Bagder> I just use umask=0 and am happy with that ;-) | ||
45 | <adi|home> heheh | ||
46 | <Bagder> /dev/sda1 /mnt/archos vfat noauto,umask=0 0 0 | ||
47 | <adi|home> ill try it :) | ||
48 | <Bagder> that still requires root to mount | ||
49 | <Bagder> but any user can write to it | ||
50 | <adi|home> see.. don't want that :) | ||
51 | <adi|home> i want user to be able to mount it :) | ||
52 | <Bagder> beats me really | ||
53 | <adi|home> hehe no worries | ||
54 | <adi|home> yup.. still happens .. the coring.. | ||
55 | <adi|home> can you check on your version and ensure im not nuts? | ||
56 | <Bagder> sure | ||
57 | <dwihno> you're full of the nuts? :) | ||
58 | <adi|home> okay... load the uizim | ||
59 | <adi|home> the sim | ||
60 | <adi|home> then load a playlist | ||
61 | <adi|home> then go to shuffle the list and shuffle | ||
62 | <adi|home> and it should core after it finishes | ||
63 | <Bagder> ok... fixing my darned X-redirect... | ||
64 | * adi|home screams | ||
65 | <adi|home> my rockbox on the archos reboots.. even with the dc plugged in | ||
66 | <adi|home> wtf | ||
67 | <Bagder> ugh | ||
68 | <adi|home> ugh what? | ||
69 | <adi|home> the logo looks sharp though :) | ||
70 | <Bagder> ugh as in "oh that is not nice" | ||
71 | <Bagder> hehe | ||
72 | <adi|home> hehe and my icons look sweet :) | ||
73 | <Bagder> they do | ||
74 | <adi|home> hehehe screen saver on the rockbox... | ||
75 | <adi|home> sooooooo cool :) | ||
76 | <Bagder> :-) | ||
77 | <adi|home> god i love this | ||
78 | <dwihno> are there icons now? | ||
79 | * adi|home nods | ||
80 | <Bagder> it doesn't crash for me | ||
81 | <adi|home> there always were.. we just wernet using them | ||
82 | <adi|home> hmmm wtf... | ||
83 | <adi|home> i did a make clean | ||
84 | <adi|home> and a cvs update | ||
85 | <dwihno> adi|home: Show me a screenshot! :D | ||
86 | <adi|home> of the icons? | ||
87 | <adi|home> sure.. give me a min | ||
88 | <Bagder> adi|home: can you show me a stack trace? | ||
89 | <dwihno> yay! :D | ||
90 | <adi|home> sure.. give me a min | ||
91 | <adi|home> doing an update and recompile just in case | ||
92 | <adi|home> dwihno.. you have dcc on? | ||
93 | <dwihno> Yuppers | ||
94 | --- Offering sshot.jpg to dwihno | ||
95 | <adi|home> okay.. bagder.. how do i get you a stack trace? | ||
96 | <adi|home> strace? | ||
97 | <adi|home> right? | ||
98 | <Bagder> run 'gdb rockboxui core' | ||
99 | <Bagder> then 'where' | ||
100 | <Bagder> (or 'bt' if you prefer a shortcut ;-) | ||
101 | <adi|home> no stack | ||
102 | <dwihno> adi|home: How cute! :D | ||
103 | <adi|home> heh wait.. im stupid | ||
104 | <dwihno> the cursor should be replaced | ||
105 | <Bagder> dwihno: yes indeed | ||
106 | <adi|home> okay.. then what bagder? | ||
107 | <adi|home> i know where is choking on mine.. i just don't know why. | ||
108 | <dwihno> I'll draw one rightaway ;D | ||
109 | <Bagder> mail it to me, daniel@haxx.se | ||
110 | <Bagder> please do | ||
111 | <dwihno> How big is the font btw? | ||
112 | <adi|home> want me to just dcc it to you? | ||
113 | <Bagder> adi|home: I'm tunneled, bounced, crawled and sneaked so much dcc is impossible ;-) | ||
114 | <adi|home> hehhe okay | ||
115 | <dwihno> 5x7? | ||
116 | <Bagder> yes | ||
117 | <adi|home> sent | ||
118 | <adi|home> something else i was thinking... | ||
119 | <adi|home> we can 'shuffle' and empty list | ||
120 | <Bagder> got it | ||
121 | <adi|home> we should be checking that | ||
122 | <adi|home> namely.. if you havne't loaded a list, tell the user that | ||
123 | <Bagder> yes | ||
124 | <Bagder> I told Zagor so too | ||
125 | <dwihno> ..... | ||
126 | <dwihno> ##... | ||
127 | <dwihno> ###.. | ||
128 | <dwihno> ####. | ||
129 | <dwihno> ###.. | ||
130 | <dwihno> ##... | ||
131 | <dwihno> ..... | ||
132 | <dwihno> There, a new cursor ;) | ||
133 | <Bagder> adi|home: there's no stack trace there! | ||
134 | <Bagder> dwihno: now convert it to bytes, LSB in the top, each column one byte | ||
135 | <Bagder> and use the 5 bytes width | ||
136 | <Bagder> 5 pixels | ||
137 | <dwihno> LSB? | ||
138 | <Bagder> least significant bit | ||
139 | <Bagder> bit 0 | ||
140 | <dwihno> Line 1: 0, line 2: 3 ? | ||
141 | <Bagder> no | ||
142 | <Bagder> column-wise | ||
143 | <dwihno> mkay | ||
144 | <Bagder> column 0; 0x7e | ||
145 | <Bagder> adi|home: this dump just shows lots of loaded symbols and the actual crash point, no stack trace | ||
146 | <Bagder> try running it with gdb from the start: | ||
147 | <Bagder> 'gdb rockboxui' | ||
148 | <Bagder> 'run' | ||
149 | <Bagder> [booom] | ||
150 | <Bagder> 'bt' | ||
151 | <adi|home> k | ||
152 | <adi|home> what is bt? | ||
153 | <Bagder> back trace | ||
154 | <adi|home> k.. all it returns is: | ||
155 | <adi|home> #0 0x0804e10f in menu_run (m=Cannot access memory at address 0x3d099dcc | ||
156 | <adi|home> ) at ../../apps/menu.c:169 | ||
157 | <adi|home> Cannot access memory at address 0x3d099dc4 | ||
158 | <adi|home> and i could have told you that | ||
159 | <Bagder> hm | ||
160 | <adi|home> i found out that much last night.. exactly where it is dieing.. but now why | ||
161 | <adi|home> its the menu_redraw | ||
162 | <adi|home> in main_menu.c | ||
163 | <adi|home> when you return from the function ptr | ||
164 | <dwihno> Bagder: 0x3e, 0x3e, 0x1c, 8, 0 | ||
165 | <Bagder> dwihno: you should use the full 5x7 | ||
166 | <Bagder> we have 6x8 | ||
167 | <dwihno> we have? | ||
168 | <Bagder> yes | ||
169 | <dwihno> mkay | ||
170 | <dwihno> me stupid | ||
171 | <dwihno> me back in a flash soon ;) | ||
172 | <Bagder> no ;-) | ||
173 | <dwihno> me need coffee | ||
174 | <Bagder> menu_redraw? | ||
175 | <adi|home> yup.. one sec ill get you a line | ||
176 | * Bagder runs to fill up more coffee | ||
177 | <adi|home> sorry.. menu_draw | ||
178 | <adi|home> menu.c:164 | ||
179 | <adi|home> lcd_clear_display(); | ||
180 | <adi|home> | ||
181 | <adi|home> menus[m].items[menus[m].cursor].function(); | ||
182 | <adi|home> | ||
183 | <adi|home> /* Return to previous display state */ | ||
184 | <adi|home> menu_draw(m); | ||
185 | <adi|home> break; | ||
186 | <adi|home> the function call goes fine | ||
187 | <adi|home> "m" is valid before the call | ||
188 | --> Zagor (~bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
189 | <adi|home> all looks fine in he call | ||
190 | <adi|home> we return and _barf_ | ||
191 | <Zagor> hi all | ||
192 | <adi|home> hey zagor | ||
193 | <adi|home> found a nice core that Bagder cant seem to repeat | ||
194 | <Zagor> ooh, shiny! :) | ||
195 | * adi|home nods | ||
196 | <dwihno> 0x7e, 0x7e, 0x7e, 0x3c, 0x3c, 0x18 | ||
197 | <dwihno> 0x7e, 0x42, 0x42, 0x24, 0x24, 0x18 (for a "transparent" version) ;) | ||
198 | <adi|home> zagor.. | ||
199 | <dwihno> what's the opposite of LSB term-wise? | ||
200 | <adi|home> know how the archos works better when you have dc plugged in? | ||
201 | <Zagor> dwihno: msb | ||
202 | <dwihno> mkay | ||
203 | * dwihno suck when it comes to buzzwording :) | ||
204 | <adi|home> nah. your just 'Livt' | ||
205 | <dwihno> Add my cursor code :) | ||
206 | <Hadaka> don't mix those with big-endian and little-endian like some people do :) | ||
207 | <Bagder> dwihno: in progress | ||
208 | <adi|home> at least your not a 'Liar' | ||
209 | <dwihno> Hadaka: what's the diff between big and little-endian? /me has always been on the intel platform... | ||
210 | <Hadaka> well intel is the stupid one :) | ||
211 | <adi|home> the size of the feather | ||
212 | <dwihno> adi|home: haw haw haw | ||
213 | <dwihno> Hadaka: so what is the difference? | ||
214 | <adi|home> smiles broadley | ||
215 | <dwihno> word order? | ||
216 | <dwihno> Tell me | ||
217 | <Hadaka> byte order in words | ||
218 | <Hadaka> little endian is | ||
219 | <Hadaka> A B C D | ||
220 | <Hadaka> big endian is B A D C | ||
221 | <Hadaka> if I'm not tripping, it's too early in the morning | ||
222 | <Hadaka> (that's bytes) | ||
223 | <Zagor> you are tripping :) | ||
224 | <dwihno> C D A B ? | ||
225 | <adi|home> heheh | ||
226 | <adi|home> but he's right isn't he? | ||
227 | * adi|home remebers it that way | ||
228 | <Zagor> no, big-endian is straight big-to-small. little-endian is twisted | ||
229 | * adi|home taps Hadaka on the shoulder and askes if he is a he, just in case | ||
230 | <Hadaka> err, big-endian is small-to-big | ||
231 | <Hadaka> yup, sorry guys, I'm male | ||
232 | <adi|home> so big should be: D C B A | ||
233 | <Hadaka> or | ||
234 | <Hadaka> if you are guys }:> | ||
235 | <adi|home> and little is: C D A B | ||
236 | <adi|home> ? | ||
237 | <Hadaka> adi|home: nope | ||
238 | <Hadaka> I hope that is | ||
239 | <Zagor> the lowest byte of a big-endian word is the highest value | ||
240 | <Zagor> 0xCAFEF00D is 0xCA 0xFE 0xF0 0x0D | ||
241 | <dwihno> Bagder: Is the cursor cute? | ||
242 | <Bagder> not quite there yet | ||
243 | <dwihno> oh.. | ||
244 | <adi|home> little: 0x0D 0xF0 0xFE 0xCA? | ||
245 | <Hadaka> hmh, lowest? do you mean 0xCA with that or 0x0D? | ||
246 | <Zagor> i meant lowest address | ||
247 | <Zagor> 0xCA | ||
248 | <Hadaka> hm, yeah | ||
249 | <Hadaka> oh yeah | ||
250 | * adi|home is confused again | ||
251 | <dwihno> Little endian is gay, in that case | ||
252 | * adi|home needs to go back and read | ||
253 | <adi|home> given CAFEFOOD | ||
254 | <adi|home> what is little? | ||
255 | <Hadaka> big-endian assumption being that the highest address should be highest value - which is wrong | ||
256 | <Hadaka> s/big/my big/; | ||
257 | <Zagor> Hadaka: ah | ||
258 | <Hadaka> jesus one should never run into these things | ||
259 | <dwihno> Hmm | ||
260 | <dwihno> For someone who knows nothing on this endian stuff, who should I listen to so I won't learn the wrong stuff? :) | ||
261 | <Bagder> haha | ||
262 | <Zagor> hehe | ||
263 | <adi|home> lotsa pot smokers in belguim must be happy :) | ||
264 | <adi|home> hehe Zagor | ||
265 | <adi|home> he's been right so far in everything else :) | ||
266 | <dwihno> heh | ||
267 | <Zagor> :) | ||
268 | <dwihno> Zagor: Give me a skolboksexample, s'il vous plait :) | ||
269 | <Hadaka> http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/b/big_endian.html | ||
270 | <Zagor> little endian cafefood is just the opposite: 0x0D 0xF0 0xFE 0xCA | ||
271 | <Hadaka> haha | ||
272 | <Hadaka> UNIX -> NUXI - 'U' 'N' 'I' 'X' is big endian, 'N' 'U' 'X' 'I' is little endian :) | ||
273 | <dwihno> So when will one be affected by endianness? And don't tell me some apache joke now adi ;) | ||
274 | <Bagder> dwihno: reading binary data as 'shorts' or 'longs' etc | ||
275 | <Zagor> Hadaka: yes but only when talking about two 16-bit words. if it was 32-bit, it'd be XINU | ||
276 | <Bagder> dwihno: like when reading a BMP file from disk ;-) | ||
277 | <dwihno> Hehe... | ||
278 | <dwihno> I bet 'my' BMP reader will freak out with little endian | ||
279 | <dwihno> big endian on the archos? | ||
280 | <dwihno> oops | ||
281 | <dwihno> well, you know what I mean ;) | ||
282 | <Zagor> yes, except some hardware (like the ata controller) is little endian | ||
283 | <dwihno> eww | ||
284 | <dwihno> endian soup | ||
285 | <Zagor> and the mp3 chip is little-endian bit-wise, so we have to flip every single friggin byte before we send it... | ||
286 | <dwihno> They should have chosen a big-endian mp3 decoding chip | ||
287 | <Zagor> yeah, well there's a list of "they should've"s :) | ||
288 | <adi|home> starting with 'they should've made the price cheaper' | ||
289 | <dwihno> They should have made the screen 400x200 pixels :) | ||
290 | <dwihno> What is the most power consuming part (apart from the hard disk stuff) ? | ||
291 | <Zagor> i don't know. cpu, i guess | ||
292 | <adi|home> okay.. just to double check... | ||
293 | <adi|home> ABCD in big indian | ||
294 | <adi|home> is | ||
295 | <adi|home> CDAB in little? | ||
296 | <Zagor> if the data is two 16-bit words, yes | ||
297 | <Zagor> if it's one 32-bit word, it will be DCBA | ||
298 | <adi|home> k... | ||
299 | <adi|home> and if you have 2 32 bit words of ABCD ABCD? | ||
300 | <adi|home> or ABCD EFGH | ||
301 | <Zagor> DCBA HGFE | ||
302 | <adi|home> russian belguim game has gotten really good :) | ||
303 | * dwihno is amazed by the stupidity of some people | ||
304 | <dwihno> Encoding stuff @ 192kbps even when the quality is really bad | ||
305 | <Bagder> hehe, I found something... | ||
306 | <Bagder> #define MAX_MENUS 4 | ||
307 | <Bagder> in apps/menu.c | ||
308 | <adi|home> hehehe okay? | ||
309 | <adi|home> thats why we core? | ||
310 | <Bagder> yeah | ||
311 | <Zagor> you made a new menu? | ||
312 | <adi|home> damn.. how did you find that? | ||
313 | <adi|home> hey.. they added shuffle playlist | ||
314 | <Zagor> as a new menu? not just an entry? | ||
315 | <adi|home> no.. its an entry.. | ||
316 | <adi|home> so that shouldn't effect it | ||
317 | <Bagder> this is an entry count | ||
318 | <Zagor> MAX_MENUS is the max menu depth, not max entries | ||
319 | * adi|home nods | ||
320 | <Bagder> then it is used wrongly | ||
321 | <Zagor> ok | ||
322 | <Bagder> check main_menu.c | ||
323 | <Bagder> and the menu_init() call | ||
324 | <Zagor> checking | ||
325 | <Bagder> no | ||
326 | <Bagder> sorry | ||
327 | <Bagder> my bad | ||
328 | <Bagder> no problem there | ||
329 | <Zagor> ok | ||
330 | <adi|home> zagor.. | ||
331 | <Zagor> yup? | ||
332 | <adi|home> can you explain why 32 bit words become DCBA HGFE | ||
333 | <adi|home> seems more sensible that it would be EFGH ABCD | ||
334 | <adi|home> or GHEF CDAB | ||
335 | <Zagor> your data is 64 bits | ||
336 | * adi|home nods | ||
337 | <dwihno> aaaaaaaaarggghhh! | ||
338 | <dwihno> you make me go nuts! :) | ||
339 | <Zagor> so it's split up in two 32-bit words | ||
340 | <adi|home> right | ||
341 | <Zagor> the words don't change places or anything | ||
342 | <Zagor> the byte swapping is only done within the word | ||
343 | <adi|home> okay... | ||
344 | <adi|home> why doen'st the same idea follo for 16bit works? | ||
345 | <adi|home> words? | ||
346 | <adi|home> you said: ABCD becomes CDAB | ||
347 | <adi|home> if the swap is within words.. wouldnt: BADC make more sense? | ||
348 | <Bagder> "word" is a crappy term to use | ||
349 | <Zagor> i didn't say that, did I? it's wrong | ||
350 | <Zagor> 32-bit ABCD becomes DCBA | ||
351 | <Zagor> 16-bit ABCD becomes BADC | ||
352 | <dwihno> Bagder: the daily build is already built? | ||
353 | <Bagder> yes | ||
354 | <Bagder> 6 am MET | ||
355 | <dwihno> darn | ||
356 | <dwihno> Then I'll wait until tomorrow ;) | ||
357 | <dwihno> We need a "select cursor" menu ;D | ||
358 | <Bagder> I'll just fix the cursor for the tree browser too and soon we'll see | ||
359 | <adi|home> can i assum then that on 64 bit words we would be: ABCDEFGH => HGFE DCBA? | ||
360 | * Bagder tries to figure out the best way to deal with the margins in the tree browser | ||
361 | <Zagor> adi|home: yes | ||
362 | * adi|home is finally getting this | ||
363 | <adi|home> thank you for the help... | ||
364 | <Zagor> Bagder: what is your problem with margins? | ||
365 | <Zagor> no problem | ||
366 | <Zagor> btw, adi, whatever happened to your logging effort? | ||
367 | * adi|home whistles innocently | ||
368 | * Bagder chuckles | ||
369 | <adi|home> my isp decided to get alot more unstable | ||
370 | <adi|home> we need a bot in here to just sit and suck everything up | ||
371 | <Zagor> i'd still say you're the guy with the most complete logs. you're always here | ||
372 | * adi|home blushes | ||
373 | <adi|home> i can put up what i haver right now | ||
374 | <Zagor> yeah, that is an option | ||
375 | <Zagor> please do | ||
376 | <dwihno> Hey, what happened to privacy?! | ||
377 | <dwihno> ECHELON SEES YOU! :D | ||
378 | <adi|home> that doesn't exist on the net ;) | ||
379 | <Bagder> /whois privacy | ||
380 | <Bagder> oops ;-) | ||
381 | <dwihno> ECHELON BUSH TALIBAN USAMA BIN LADEN {{{{{ hugs to you }}}}} | ||
382 | <adi|home> my current rockbox log is 1.1 megs | ||
383 | <dwihno> There, my footprint in the internet world ;D | ||
384 | <Zagor> adi|home: will you split it up into days? | ||
385 | <adi|home> all i ahve to say is that PRESIDENT BUSH is the BOMB and bin laden needs to DIE | ||
386 | <adi|home> for you zag? | ||
387 | <adi|home> sure | ||
388 | <adi|home> but only cause its you | ||
389 | <Zagor> hehe | ||
390 | * adi|home winks suggestivly | ||
391 | <Zagor> nudge nudge | ||
392 | <adi|home> nudge nudge... wink wink.. kno what i mean.. know what i mean... | ||
393 | <adi|home> have you ever.. have ya hu? have you... | ||
394 | <adi|home> ya know... | ||
395 | <Bagder> there we go again ;-) | ||
396 | <dwihno> find / -name bin | awk '{print $1 " laden"}' | ||
397 | * adi|home yells out 'Help! Help! I'm being repressed! | ||
398 | <adi|home> Zagor.. should i remove room enters and leaving? | ||
399 | * Bagder thinks so | ||
400 | <Zagor> yes | ||
401 | <dwihno> and everything dwihno-related. I want my privacy ;D | ||
402 | <Bagder> dwihno: your privacy can be found here => #dwinos_secrets | ||
403 | <Bagder> set it invite-only ;-) | ||
404 | <dwihno> :D | ||
405 | <dwihno> Mr. Funny pants | ||
406 | <dwihno> http://www.klitta.nu/dw/keops_bigapple.png | ||
407 | <dwihno> Speaking of funny pants | ||
408 | <Bagder> someone could make some work on a vertical slider | ||
409 | <Bagder> if we should have one | ||
410 | <dwihno> hmm | ||
411 | <dwihno> It could share space with the cursor | ||
412 | <dwihno> I like the display like it is now - as many filenames as possible! :) | ||
413 | * Bagder commits new cursor | ||
414 | <dwihno> YAY! :D | ||
415 | <dwihno> Which did you chose? | ||
416 | <Bagder> 0x7e, 0x7e, 0x7e, 0x3c, 0x3c, 0x18 | ||
417 | <Bagder> but it looks a bit ugly ;-) | ||
418 | <Bagder> too thick | ||
419 | <dwihno> ugly cursor for ugly people | ||
420 | <dwihno> shift it left one step and make the new first column smaller than | ||
421 | <dwihno> then | ||
422 | <Bagder> I thought about that too | ||
423 | <Bagder> perhaps even two steps | ||
424 | <dwihno> do so | ||
425 | <Bagder> 0x7f, 0x3e, 0x1c, 0x08, 0x00, 0x00 wins | ||
426 | <Bagder> Zagor: does the scroll code care about the lcd margins on the recorder? | ||
427 | <Zagor> yes | ||
428 | <dwihno> Bagder: yay! | ||
429 | <dwihno> does the scroll look fishy on the players? | ||
430 | <Zagor> no that I know | ||
431 | <Zagor> not | ||
432 | <Bagder> the new cursor only uses 4 pixels width | ||
433 | <adi|home> zagor.. your gonna love me in a min :) | ||
434 | <dwihno> I'll start working on a variable width font this weekend | ||
435 | * Zagor feels his heart warming | ||
436 | <Zagor> dwihno: cool | ||
437 | <Bagder> dwihno: it would be really cool | ||
438 | <dwihno> How are you storing the fonts right now? | ||
439 | <Zagor> Bagder: have you kept my code that handles proportional fonts? | ||
440 | <dwihno> like the cursor? | ||
441 | <Bagder> Zagor: I think I have it somewhere, yes | ||
442 | <dwihno> I was thinking about an extra byte for w&h | ||
443 | <Bagder> dwihno: I adjusted it | ||
444 | <Bagder> I added a bug when scrolling in the tree browser though :-/ | ||
445 | <dwihno> So what are the measurements we should keep? | ||
446 | <dwihno> Bagder: It's called a surprise feature, not bug :) | ||
447 | <Zagor> as small as possible :) | ||
448 | <dwihno> <reboot> SURPRISE! :D | ||
449 | <dwihno> How about umlauts and special chars? | ||
450 | <Zagor> yes please | ||
451 | <Zagor> a full iso 8859-1 is ideal | ||
452 | <Bagder> heck, this bugs more than just in the scroll | ||
453 | <dwihno> I'll work against the charmap in the recorder... | ||
454 | <Bagder> more coffee needed | ||
455 | * dwihno is not looking forward to the 1 o'clock meeting | ||
456 | <dwihno> meetings are time thieves | ||
457 | <Zagor> dwihno: either that, or look here: http://czyborra.com/charsets/iso8859-1.gif | ||
458 | <adi|home> okay.. irc files updated | ||
459 | <adi|home> but you ge to fix the html ;) | ||
460 | <adi|home> im going to bed | ||
461 | <Zagor> ok, bye | ||
462 | <Bagder> night adi | ||
463 | <Bagder> now you can try the new cursor | ||
464 | <Bagder> hm | ||
465 | <Bagder> brb | ||
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468 | <Bagder> http://storebror.haxx.se/archos/ | ||
469 | <Bagder> brand new | ||
470 | <dwihno> I'll test it rightaway | ||
471 | <adi|home> ummm.. don't mean to be an ass ;) | ||
472 | <adi|home> but the cursor you just put in.. | ||
473 | <adi|home> is exactly like the Selector that was there and not being used :) | ||
474 | <Bagder> haha | ||
475 | <dwihno> adi|home: you're an ass :) | ||
476 | * Bagder is blind | ||
477 | <adi|home> don't blame me... | ||
478 | <adi|home> _you_ didnt read the code ;)( | ||
479 | <dwihno> Heh | ||
480 | <dwihno> So what? :) | ||
481 | <dwihno> I'm no coder | ||
482 | <dwihno> I just come with ideas | ||
483 | <adi|home> hehehe | ||
484 | <adi|home> im just bustig your balls.. | ||
485 | <Bagder> but... but... eh, but my cursor is one more pixel to the left! ;-) | ||
486 | <dwihno> :D | ||
487 | <adi|home> besides.. yours looks sharper for some reason | ||
488 | <adi|home> hehehe | ||
489 | <adi|home> keep yours | ||
490 | <adi|home> delete Selector | ||
491 | <dwihno> YOUR cursor?! :/ | ||
492 | * dwihno is offended | ||
493 | <adi|home> your.. meaning you ddi the new one didn you ? | ||
494 | <Bagder> haha | ||
495 | * adi|home runs to bed | ||
496 | <dwihno> erhm | ||
497 | <Bagder> dwihno: compare the values, they aren't really the ones you gave me ;-) | ||
498 | <dwihno> they are not! | ||
499 | <dwihno> oh my god! | ||
500 | <dwihno> You evil dude | ||
501 | <dwihno> the lcd still flickers | ||
502 | <Bagder> I pulled up xmag and zoomed in | ||
503 | <Bagder> and this setup was the nicest I could do | ||
504 | <adi|home> no it don't.. you just blink funny | ||
505 | <dwihno> and the [browse] line should be removed since another line of files would fit ;D | ||
506 | <Zagor> actually I think that's a good idea. we want to use the screen fully | ||
507 | <dwihno> What is the dimensions of the screen? | ||
508 | <adi|home> well.. remember | ||
509 | <adi|home> your going to want battery indicators | ||
510 | <adi|home> and we havne't thought about time or anything | ||
511 | <Zagor> adi|home: agreed, but personally I prefer such information on a separate info screen | ||
512 | <dwihno> Me too | ||
513 | <Zagor> or during playback or something. not in the browser | ||
514 | <dwihno> browser is a browser | ||
515 | <dwihno> during playback, there is a lot of space for displaying such information | ||
516 | <adi|home> nod | ||
517 | <Bagder> brb | ||
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520 | <Bagder> my ssh X-redirect is *so* weird | ||
521 | <Bagder> it works the second login I do | ||
522 | <Bagder> not the first | ||
523 | <dwihno> <-- is pissed off | ||
524 | <dwihno> <-- wants to order his F!("#)¤/)! laptop! | ||
525 | <dwihno> Will there be L/R volume bars in the future? | ||
526 | <Zagor> you mean during playback? | ||
527 | <dwihno> yeah | ||
528 | <Zagor> no thanks... | ||
529 | <dwihno> I mean, it's not that pretty | ||
530 | <dwihno> and it looks rather silly when only updated a couple of times per secnod | ||
531 | <Zagor> yes | ||
532 | <Zagor> i don't like it either | ||
533 | <dwihno> A wider battery might be nice too | ||
534 | <Zagor> i say we skip the silly icon and use hard numbers instead | ||
535 | <dwihno> %? | ||
536 | <Zagor> yeah | ||
537 | <dwihno> Yeah, and a "time left" feature :D | ||
538 | <dwihno> (or, at least, some kind of estimation) | ||
539 | <Zagor> that's, ummm, difficult | ||
540 | <Zagor> even just % is very difficult | ||
541 | <dwihno> it is? | ||
542 | <dwihno> Does not the hardware supply the values? | ||
543 | <dwihno> Or do you have to pull off a sw trick to read it? | ||
544 | <Zagor> the hardware supplies battery voltage, that's all | ||
545 | <dwihno> hm | ||
546 | <dwihno> voltage, as in 1.2 volts? | ||
547 | <Zagor> yes | ||
548 | <dwihno> oh | ||
549 | <dwihno> Mail the archos guys and ask them :) | ||
550 | <Zagor> heh, yeah right :) | ||
551 | <dwihno> "Hello mr. archos guy. How do you perform the battery check? We think battery status would be neat in Rockbox" | ||
552 | <Bagder> would be cool to get an external meter on that thing and keep showing the voltage all the way until the unit dies | ||
553 | <dwihno> Get going! :D | ||
554 | --- dwihno is now known as dw|lunch | ||
555 | --- dw|lunch is now known as dwihno | ||
556 | --> [TOT]Maverick (~webmaster@pD953A193.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #rockbox | ||
557 | <[TOT]Maverick> hi | ||
558 | <[TOT]Maverick> Just tried out the new daily build for the recorder | ||
559 | <[TOT]Maverick> Dunno if you already know but the Euro-Symbol doesnt work it just displays a ?. | ||
560 | <Zagor> yeah, we lack a number of symbols in the font | ||
561 | <[TOT]Maverick> Hehe | ||
562 | <[TOT]Maverick> I used it for DJ DEEP the both EEs were Euros | ||
563 | <dwihno> Oh how neat | ||
564 | <[TOT]Maverick> :) | ||
565 | <[TOT]Maverick> Tetris is nice | ||
566 | <Zagor> hehe, yeah. a little diversion while you... eh... don't listen to music (yet) :) | ||
567 | <[TOT]Maverick> But I hate these buttons they arent like the ones of a gameboy or something | ||
568 | <[TOT]Maverick> who needs music on a mp3 player :) | ||
569 | <[TOT]Maverick> First i also thought about reporting the scrolling bug but you fixed it first :) | ||
570 | <Zagor> hehe | ||
571 | <[TOT]Maverick> Hehe developers are faster in fixing bugs than user in reporting em | ||
572 | <[TOT]Maverick> BTW Music in tetris would be nice | ||
573 | <Zagor> the music will keep playing during tetris. just fire up a big playlist and you'll be set | ||
574 | <Zagor> did you try loading a playlist, btw? i think you will be pleasantly surprised... | ||
575 | <[TOT]Maverick> No i never use playlist *beatme* | ||
576 | <Zagor> i know, the archos playlists aren't very useful. we're changing all that | ||
577 | <[TOT]Maverick> hehe | ||
578 | <[TOT]Maverick> You dont understand | ||
579 | <[TOT]Maverick> I NEVER use em :) | ||
580 | <[TOT]Maverick> Not in winamp, not on the box.. | ||
581 | <Zagor> how are you using it? playing a record at a time, or having all songs in one dir? | ||
582 | <[TOT]Maverick> my songs are too long fo puttin them into a list | ||
583 | <Zagor> too long? | ||
584 | <[TOT]Maverick> i usually listen to mixes about 300mins long a track | ||
585 | <Zagor> ah, ok | ||
586 | <[TOT]Maverick> so there is no need for mee | ||
587 | <Zagor> so what you really want is mid-track resume | ||
588 | <[TOT]Maverick> but of course for normal songs its quite useful | ||
589 | <[TOT]Maverick> yeah THAT would be usefeul for ME :) | ||
590 | <Zagor> it's coming in a later version | ||
591 | <[TOT]Maverick> Shouldnt be too hard to realize, nor? | ||
592 | <Zagor> not really. the scary part is writing on the harddisk... :-) | ||
593 | <[TOT]Maverick> hmmm | ||
594 | <[TOT]Maverick> Perhaps you could use a hidden directory for saving data | ||
595 | <[TOT]Maverick> OR use the MBR!!! | ||
596 | <Zagor> exactly | ||
597 | <datazone> right.. | ||
598 | <[TOT]Maverick> That would be an option | ||
599 | <Zagor> we'll use a sector before the FAT | ||
600 | <[TOT]Maverick> yeah so its hidden in windows | ||
601 | <Zagor> yup | ||
602 | <[TOT]Maverick> nice | ||
603 | <Zagor> and so we don't have to look for it in a directory, we always know where to save | ||
604 | <[TOT]Maverick> erm the UI gets more graphically as development moves on? | ||
605 | <Zagor> yes | ||
606 | <[TOT]Maverick> nice | ||
607 | <[TOT]Maverick> is a graphical indocator like the one in winamp possible when playing a song? | ||
608 | <[TOT]Maverick> The current one of the archos is just for left-right... | ||
609 | <Zagor> it's not easy, since we don't unpack the data ourselves | ||
610 | <[TOT]Maverick> ah | ||
611 | <[TOT]Maverick> that does the dsp | ||
612 | <Zagor> yes | ||
613 | <[TOT]Maverick> ok so no chance there | ||
614 | <Zagor> I wouldn't say no chance, but it's not straight-forward | ||
615 | <[TOT]Maverick> I noticed something when text is scrolling at a faster speed... | ||
616 | <[TOT]Maverick> Its like the effect on a TFT screen | ||
617 | <[TOT]Maverick> when something moves fast | ||
618 | <Zagor> yeah, trail | ||
619 | <[TOT]Maverick> But never seen that on a LCD before. | ||
620 | <[TOT]Maverick> is that normal? | ||
621 | <Zagor> yes. lcd screens are inherently slow | ||
622 | <[TOT]Maverick> gameboy didnt have that "feature" :) | ||
623 | <Zagor> maybe their screen was faster | ||
624 | <[TOT]Maverick> But its nice to set your own speed | ||
625 | <[TOT]Maverick> great work there | ||
626 | <Zagor> thanks | ||
627 | <[TOT]Maverick> Will you implement functions like renaming, moving an so on? | ||
628 | <datazone> why dont you look on the webpage | ||
629 | <datazone> it lists the wishlist of features | ||
630 | <Zagor> yes, probably. but it's a bit in the future | ||
631 | <[TOT]Maverick> @data: I look at the page every day just to mention. | ||
632 | <datazone> every day? man, thats bad | ||
633 | * Bagder made the build go yellow... fixing... | ||
634 | <Zagor> booo! :) | ||
635 | <[TOT]Maverick> I like the site | ||
636 | <[TOT]Maverick> Every day something new :) | ||
637 | <datazone> or you have "issues" | ||
638 | <Zagor> ironi made the design, I make everything else :) | ||
639 | <Zagor> yeah I try to keep it interesting | ||
640 | <[TOT]Maverick> It IS | ||
641 | <[TOT]Maverick> But there is one thing i miss since ver 1.0 | ||
642 | <Zagor> what is that? | ||
643 | <[TOT]Maverick> The Status of the single parts | ||
644 | <Bagder> we need a new table | ||
645 | <Bagder> with new parts | ||
646 | <datazone> i remember when i first saw the rockbox logo.. heh, i though it was a guy humping the "R" | ||
647 | <Zagor> well we don't really have that kind of progress anymore. most new features affect many parts | ||
648 | <[TOT]Maverick> hmmm | ||
649 | <Bagder> we could still list things we want, what we work on and what isn't worked on | ||
650 | <Zagor> Bagder: true | ||
651 | <[TOT]Maverick> yeah thats what i mean | ||
652 | <[TOT]Maverick> the user doesnt interest what is REALLY done wherever | ||
653 | <[TOT]Maverick> BTW² will it be possible in the future to make mods or plugins? | ||
654 | <Zagor> no, we'll always make whole apps | ||
655 | <[TOT]Maverick> ok | ||
656 | <Zagor> we do plan a boot selector, though | ||
657 | <Bagder> but we'll do different apps | ||
658 | <[TOT]Maverick> So you have to make a nice (and nice looking hehe) app :) | ||
659 | <Bagder> well, with the proper help and feedback, we'll end up there | ||
660 | <[TOT]Maverick> I am always there if you are in need of ideas | ||
661 | * Bagder enables picky warnings in the simulator builds now | ||
662 | <[TOT]Maverick> But as you already know i cant "really" help you because of my non existing c knowledge | ||
663 | <Bagder> we're talking YELLOW ;-) | ||
664 | <[TOT]Maverick> huh? | ||
665 | <Zagor> ideas are help too | ||
666 | <Bagder> on the build status page | ||
667 | <[TOT]Maverick> ah hehe | ||
668 | --- dwihno is now known as dwihno|metting | ||
669 | --- dwihno|metting is now known as dwihno|meeting | ||
670 | <Bagder> phew, only 2 warnings turned up ;-) | ||
671 | <Bagder> daily build page extra feature soon coming | ||
672 | --> elinenbe (trilluser@bgp01080511bgs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) has joined #rockbox | ||
673 | <Bagder> hey elinenbe | ||
674 | <elinenbe> hey | ||
675 | <Bagder> Zagor: boo! | ||
676 | <Bagder> Zagor: here? | ||
677 | <Bagder> ok, then I'll go for a cup a coffee ;-) | ||
678 | <Zagor> back | ||
679 | <Bagder> check the compile stat table | ||
680 | <Bagder> suggestion on the link? | ||
681 | <Zagor> a - instead of space | ||
682 | <Zagor> and link to a subdir that I can symlink to your dir | ||
683 | <Bagder> hm | ||
684 | <Bagder> ok | ||
685 | <Bagder> I prefer to use %20 and keep the same | ||
686 | <Bagder> space | ||
687 | <Bagder> it is the same time stamp | ||
688 | <Zagor> ok | ||
689 | <Bagder> name of your symlink? | ||
690 | <Zagor> cvslog ? | ||
691 | <Zagor> cvsmod maybe? | ||
692 | <Bagder> there | ||
693 | <Bagder> it should link to my output dir | ||
694 | <Zagor> where are your files? | ||
695 | <Bagder> /home/dast/rockbox-auto/output | ||
696 | <Zagor> ok | ||
697 | <Zagor> works | ||
698 | <Bagder> neato | ||
699 | <Bagder> the dump shows the last 25 minutes | ||
700 | <Bagder> it makes 5 minute overlap | ||
701 | <Zagor> hmm, is that what we want? | ||
702 | <Bagder> well, entirely without overlap tends to be with gap instead | ||
703 | <Bagder> this is just time-based | ||
704 | <Zagor> yes, but can't you look at the time and minimise the gap? it will get confusing when one change is in two status logs | ||
705 | <Bagder> I can minimize it, sure | ||
706 | <Bagder> but since I select based on time, I either risk overlap or gap, making it *perfect* is not really realistic | ||
707 | <Bagder> 20 minutes and 30 seconds now | ||
708 | <Bagder> oh | ||
709 | <Bagder> .txt I guess | ||
710 | --- dwihno|meeting is now known as dwhino | ||
711 | --- dwhino is now known as dwihno | ||
712 | <Zagor> yeah that's probably a good idea :) | ||
713 | <Bagder> btw, I believe the x11 simulator runs threads wrong | ||
714 | <Zagor> yeah? | ||
715 | <Bagder> yeah, they run simultaneously | ||
716 | <Zagor> ooh, bad | ||
717 | <Bagder> my mutex trick isn't used | ||
718 | <Bagder> I wanted to add the tick_counter in yield, and then I noticed that yield is never used! | ||
719 | <Zagor> hehe | ||
720 | <dwihno> hellö hellö | ||
721 | <dwihno> I say hellö | ||
722 | <dwihno> You say goodbye | ||
723 | <dwihno> I say hellö | ||
724 | * dwihno is a beatle today | ||
725 | <Zagor> beetle | ||
726 | <dwihno> Nope | ||
727 | <dwihno> beatle | ||
728 | * Zagor squishes dwihno :) | ||
729 | <Bagder> This is Windows for you...'found out that significant part of time is spent ... In this function "select" is used with a timeout value of 1 micro second' | ||
730 | <Bagder> 1 us | ||
731 | <Bagder> turns out to be a "significant part" of time | ||
732 | <dwihno> Zagor: You are so nasty! | ||
733 | <dwihno> Nasty boy! | ||
734 | <Bagder> that must be one helluva implementation ;-) | ||
735 | <Zagor> Bagder: aren't they saying that since it times out so quickly it gets called very frequently? | ||
736 | <Bagder> no | ||
737 | <Bagder> this is a libcurl thing | ||
738 | <Bagder> I use it only once | ||
739 | <Zagor> ok | ||
740 | <Bagder> but it "significantly" slows windows operations down | ||
741 | <Zagor> haha | ||
742 | <Bagder> I can't but to laugh | ||
743 | <dwihno> curl? sounds gay ;) | ||
744 | <Bagder> doesn't most things to you? ;-) | ||
745 | <Bagder> curl groks ;-) | ||
746 | <dwihno> you are sitting WAY TOO MUCH in front of the computer screen :) | ||
747 | <Bagder> no, I'm not doing it enough! | ||
748 | * Zagor is starting go get mutt to behave | ||
749 | <Zagor> to | ||
750 | <Bagder> can mutt use different "roles" when replying etc? | ||
751 | <Zagor> haven't gotten that far yet :) | ||
752 | <Zagor> i think so, though. there's a lot of hooks everywhere you can use | ||
753 | <dwihno> Zagor: Hey, are you becoming a dwihno?! :) | ||
754 | <dwihno> mutt are belongs to us! | ||
755 | <dwihno> Mutt is evil software! :) | ||
756 | <dwihno> custom keybindings is a must rhough | ||
757 | <Zagor> yeah they are. i'm just checking out if it's better than pine. | ||
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759 | <dwihno> Well | ||
760 | <dwihno> It takes a while to get accustomed to it | ||
761 | <dwihno> (as everything else) | ||
762 | <Zagor> yes | ||
763 | <dwihno> ROROROROROOOCKBOOOOX! | ||
764 | <dwihno> Fa l ala | ||
765 | * dwihno has gotten 0xc0ffee into the veins | ||
766 | <-- [TOT]Maverick has quit () | ||
767 | <dwihno> Coffee is for the mind, what viagra is for the dick | ||
768 | <-- elinenbe has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.8 [Mozilla rv:1.1a/20020611]") | ||
769 | --- elinenbe2 is now known as elinenbe | ||
770 | <-- plmirc has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | ||
771 | <Bagder> heh, the scrolling looks worse when I "fix" the threading ;-) | ||
772 | <Bagder> in the simulator that is | ||
773 | <dwihno> Any ideas why it flickers on the recorder? | ||
774 | <Bagder> you mean when scrolling? | ||
775 | <dwihno> nay, when going across pages | ||
776 | --> jedix (~liam@fwott1-1.cis.ec.gc.ca) has joined #rockbox | ||
777 | <Bagder> hi jedix | ||
778 | <jedix> hey | ||
779 | <jedix> what are you guys working on today? | ||
780 | * Bagder fixes threading in the simulator, cursor on recorder, cvs logs on the site | ||
781 | <Bagder> nothing else ;-) | ||
782 | <jedix> hehe | ||
783 | <jedix> cool | ||
784 | <jedix> I should probably update my cvs | ||
785 | <Bagder> Zagor: 'current_tick' is now in the simulator | ||
786 | * Bagder broke the win32 simulator build just now | ||
787 | <dwihno> Yay! :D | ||
788 | <dwihno> you rule Bagder | ||
789 | * dwihno just got a project finished | ||
790 | <dwihno> yay! | ||
791 | <Bagder> was that the 5 of 5 then? | ||
792 | <dwihno> yay = yet another youser | ||
793 | <dwihno> not really :) | ||
794 | <dwihno> I got 2 new :) | ||
795 | <Bagder> heh | ||
796 | <dwihno> One step forward, two steps back, ya'know :) | ||
797 | <dwihno> So now I'm gonna spend some time configuring a computer | ||
798 | <dwihno> (for purchase, that is) | ||
799 | <dwihno> Pentium 4 - M Supreme Performance | ||
800 | <dwihno> Yum | ||
801 | <dwihno> The volume bar should be a numerical value instead of a bar in Rockbox | ||
802 | <dwihno> (just a thought) | ||
803 | <Bagder> I often don't care for either way | ||
804 | <Bagder> I use up/down without any visual feedback | ||
805 | <dwihno> me too | ||
806 | <dwihno> but it's just a thought | ||
807 | <dwihno> the most useless feature: the L/R volume bars | ||
808 | <Bagder> indeed | ||
809 | <Bagder> all builds are now *green* | ||
810 | <dwihno> yay! :D | ||
811 | <dwihno> even with the extra warning flags? | ||
812 | <Bagder> yeps | ||
813 | <Bagder> now, coffee break | ||
814 | <dwihno> cools0r | ||
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816 | <edx> hi | ||
817 | <dwihno> Howdy edx! :D | ||
818 | <dwihno> http://www.euro.dell.com/countries/se/sve/dhs/products/model_inspn_inspn_8200.htm, whaddya think? | ||
819 | <dwihno> Has Linus started working on the decoder chip on the recorder? | ||
820 | <dwihno> CVS archoses should show build date next to 'CVS' (the logo) | ||
821 | <edx> @ dell inspiron.. looks cool :) | ||
822 | <dwihno> What's the difference between SXGA+, UXGA, and enhanced UXGA? | ||
823 | <edx> ugh.. don't ask me :? | ||
824 | * dwihno wants to run rockbox on his recorder | ||
825 | <dwihno> but just tetris won't do it atm ;) | ||
826 | <elinenbe> dwihno: toshiba 5105-s607 (better deal) | ||
827 | <dwihno> elinenbe: I'm no rich ass dude! | ||
828 | <dwihno> is there any firewire / usb2 converter? :) | ||
829 | <dwihno> do you know what the difference between UXGA, SXGA and stuff is? | ||
830 | <dwihno> hey elinenbe, wake up :) | ||
831 | <-- Zagor has quit ("bye") | ||
832 | <dwihno> elinenbe: don't ya' know? | ||
833 | <Bagder> hey edx | ||
834 | <Bagder> edx: I believe I broke the win32 simulator build | ||
835 | <elinenbe> I am here | ||
836 | <dwihno> hellö :) | ||
837 | <dwihno> Do you know the diff between SXGA and UXGA? | ||
838 | <dwihno> and does 32 vs 64 meg gfx memory make a difference? | ||
839 | <elinenbe> SXGA+ (1400 x 1050) | ||
840 | <dwihno> Is it only the resolution that is the diff? | ||
841 | <dwihno> I mean, they still maintain the same aspect ratio | ||
842 | <elinenbe> 1280 x 1024 SXGA Resolution | ||
843 | <elinenbe> 1280 x 1024 SXGA Resolution | ||
844 | <elinenbe> 1280 x 1024 SXGA Resolution | ||
845 | <elinenbe> 1280 x 1024 SXGA Resolution | ||
846 | <elinenbe> 1280x1024 SXGA | ||
847 | <elinenbe> sorry | ||
848 | <elinenbe> uxga 1600x1200 (the best) | ||
849 | <dwihno> Extended UXGA, what's so special about that? | ||
850 | <elinenbe> no idea. | ||
851 | <dwihno> I'll skip the floppy, it's outaged anywayhs | ||
852 | <elinenbe> that is just uxga. | ||
853 | <dwihno> what do you have? | ||
854 | <elinenbe> me? | ||
855 | <elinenbe> UXGA | ||
856 | <dwihno> How is it for quake? ): | ||
857 | <dwihno> :) | ||
858 | <Bagder> I find those terms silly | ||
859 | <elinenbe> 32 megs of memore -- nvidia geforce go | ||
860 | <Bagder> I have 1800x1440, I don't ave no silly acronym ;-) | ||
861 | <elinenbe> i dont play quake, but fifa world cup runs sooo nicely | ||
862 | <dwihno> :)~ | ||
863 | <dwihno> FIFA is addictive! | ||
864 | <dwihno> My combinations are really fancy | ||
865 | <elinenbe> on my old desktop I ran 1920x1440 | ||
866 | <dwihno> pass, pass, SCOOOORE! :) | ||
867 | <Bagder> actually, I usually have just 1600x1200 | ||
868 | <elinenbe> the mobile ATI actually has better benchmarks | ||
869 | <elinenbe> but | ||
870 | <dwihno> You have 32 megs in your computer? | ||
871 | <elinenbe> the nvidia is soo mcuh better due to the drivers, etc. | ||
872 | <elinenbe> 32 megs video ram | ||
873 | <elinenbe> but more is always better | ||
874 | <dwihno> Of course :) | ||
875 | <Bagder> matrox | ||
876 | <elinenbe> matrox is not known for games. | ||
877 | <dwihno> But unless you run 3d-games at a high res, 32 meg should be sufficient, right? | ||
878 | <elinenbe> yeah | ||
879 | <Bagder> Matrox is a killer for 2D | ||
880 | <elinenbe> it is fine here. | ||
881 | <dwihno> (with high-res, I mean, REALLY HIGH-RES) :) | ||
882 | <elinenbe> Matrox has great stuff for 2d | ||
883 | <dwihno> yeah | ||
884 | <elinenbe> yeah. | ||
885 | <dwihno> matrox ownz the 2D market | ||
886 | <dwihno> they have been excellent for ages | ||
887 | <dwihno> still are | ||
888 | <elinenbe> i can run my laptop at max 1600x1200, AND an external monitor at 2048x1536 TAKE THAT! | ||
889 | <Bagder> hehe | ||
890 | <Bagder> its usually not the card that limits the resolution these days | ||
891 | <dwihno> I was just about to mention that | ||
892 | <elinenbe> but I have no external monitor anymore -- how do you think I paid for the laptop :) | ||
893 | <elinenbe> that is so true. | ||
894 | <dwihno> my old TNT card boasted with 3000xsomething resolution | ||
895 | <elinenbe> some of the 64 meg cards can do that too. 4400x3300 | ||
896 | <elinenbe> who the @$!#*& has a montiro THAT large? | ||
897 | <dwihno> And then the question is, who the heck uses such a high resolution? :) | ||
898 | <dwihno> Computer analphabets | ||
899 | <dwihno> I know of such a person :) | ||
900 | <dwihno> and he is a computer analphabet | ||
901 | <elinenbe> does anyone here use cgywin? | ||
902 | <elinenbe> cygwin. | ||
903 | <dwihno> I used to | ||
904 | <dwihno> Then I started using mingw | ||
905 | <elinenbe> is that better or something? | ||
906 | <dwihno> UT - 15" TFT UXGA (1600x1200) | ||
907 | <Bagder> mingw uses the MS native C lib | ||
908 | <dwihno> cygwin uses some kind of unix emulation layer | ||
909 | <dwihno> that's the diff | ||
910 | <dwihno> s/uses/is/ | ||
911 | <dwihno> s/uses/comes with/ | ||
912 | <dwihno> or whatever ;) | ||
913 | <elinenbe> ahh... that doesn't effect me. | ||
914 | <dwihno> $2250 is the final pricetag | ||
915 | <dwihno> including delivery | ||
916 | <dwihno> eww | ||
917 | <elinenbe> I paid 2299 for mine | ||
918 | <dwihno> That's like... 3 luxorious trips | ||
919 | <elinenbe> true | ||
920 | <dwihno> Whoa | ||
921 | * dwihno stops for a second, what the hell am I about to do?! | ||
922 | <elinenbe> WIAT | ||
923 | <elinenbe> WAIT | ||
924 | <elinenbe> read this: | ||
925 | <elinenbe> http://computers.cnet.com/hardware/0-2645880-7-1454141.html?tag=prmo | ||
926 | <dwihno> ah | ||
927 | <dwihno> you got the topmost? | ||
928 | <elinenbe> well, it only cost 2299, and yours costs nearly the same | ||
929 | <dwihno> "I receieved my toshiba 5105-S607 as a gift from my sister last month" | ||
930 | <dwihno> How sick isn't that | ||
931 | <elinenbe> what!! | ||
932 | <elinenbe> I had to sweep up elephant shit for 4 months for mine. | ||
933 | <dwihno> I've been working for 6 months to acquire the bonus | ||
934 | --- edx is now known as edx|away | ||
935 | <elinenbe> I work for the circus | ||
936 | <dwihno> Noway! :) | ||
937 | <elinenbe> finally he is out of here! | ||
938 | <elinenbe> just kidding | ||
939 | <dwihno> You're the bearded lady? :) | ||
940 | <elinenbe> yeah.. Ringling Brothers | ||
941 | <dwihno> elin en beard also known ;D | ||
942 | <elinenbe> no... I was the elephant caretaker | ||
943 | <dwihno> At least you got a kickass laptop now! ): | ||
944 | <dwihno> ):Ö | ||
945 | <dwihno> :) | ||
946 | <elinenbe> I guess. | ||
947 | <dwihno> delivery is 7-10 work days | ||
948 | <elinenbe> if you have seen the pounds of shit I cleaned up, you would think again... | ||
949 | <dwihno> yeah, I guess elephants do produce quite a lot of shit | ||
950 | <elinenbe> Badger: where do you live? | ||
951 | <Bagder> Stockholm, Sweden | ||
952 | <dwihno> I'm being torn apart between 32 or 64 megs of graphics memory | ||
953 | <elinenbe> what is the cost difference? | ||
954 | <elinenbe> well, remember a laptop is really NEVER upgradable. so what you buy now, you should expect to be happy with for at least 3 or 4 years. | ||
955 | <dwihno> $70 | ||
956 | <elinenbe> it is probably better to shell out a little more now. If you get the 32 megs and you are not happy, then what do you do? | ||
957 | <dwihno> true | ||
958 | <dwihno> you are a wise man | ||
959 | <dwihno> (or, bearded lady, if you prefer that) ;) | ||
960 | <elinenbe> new games. I read an article about how it is better to buy the best alptop that you can afford because it will last that much longs | ||
961 | <elinenbe> longer | ||
962 | <dwihno> Where did you gain your wisdom? | ||
963 | <dwihno> I guess scoping elephant shit leaves a lot of time to do philosophical thinking | ||
964 | <elinenbe> from the bearded lady. | ||
965 | <dwihno> haha | ||
966 | <dwihno> :) | ||
967 | <dwihno> 512 megs of RAM | ||
968 | <dwihno> 1,6 GHz | ||
969 | <dwihno> 1600x1200 UXGA | ||
970 | <dwihno> but no cd-rw fishy thing | ||
971 | <Bagder> ... and Linux 2.4.18? ;-] | ||
972 | * Bagder giggles | ||
973 | <dwihno> :) | ||
974 | <dwihno> I'll keep a dualboot thingy | ||
975 | <dwihno> what kind of built in network cards are there on these babies? | ||
976 | <dwihno> realtek? intel? | ||
977 | <Bagder> you're the one buying this | ||
978 | <elinenbe> i dont know. | ||
979 | <dwihno> elinenbe: what's in yours? | ||
980 | <elinenbe> Badger: you run linux -- right? | ||
981 | <Bagder> yepso | ||
982 | <Bagder> all the time | ||
983 | <elinenbe> well, I run a 10 node cluster here :) | ||
984 | <elinenbe> just kidding. | ||
985 | <dwihno> Internal combo 56k modem / 10/100 network | ||
986 | <dwihno> whoa | ||
987 | <dwihno> elinenbe: what NIC is in your box? | ||
988 | <elinenbe> I have no clue. | ||
989 | <elinenbe> I run win xp on my laptop. | ||
990 | <elinenbe> that is what came on it. | ||
991 | <dwihno> ah | ||
992 | <dwihno> mkay | ||
993 | <dwihno> check? :) | ||
994 | <elinenbe> I am not going to bother changing all this shit. | ||
995 | <elinenbe> i run linksys wireless. | ||
996 | <dwihno> cool :) | ||
997 | <dwihno> wireless is sleek & sexy | ||
998 | <elinenbe> I do all my programming on sun machines here anyway | ||
999 | <elinenbe> I guess... | ||
1000 | <dwihno> Time to do a final check before proceeding to the order part | ||
1001 | <Bagder> I'm off for today, I'll come by tomorrow... see ya | ||
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1003 | <dwihno> He left :( | ||
1004 | <dwihno> Nobody left | ||
1005 | <dwihno> psy is left | ||
1006 | <dwihno> and the bearded lady | ||
1007 | <elinenbe> have you compiled the firmware yet? | ||
1008 | <elinenbe> I have a question. | ||
1009 | <dwihno> Sorry, I don't :/ | ||
1010 | <dwihno> haven't | ||
1011 | <dwihno> there | ||
1012 | <dwihno> the order has been placed | ||
1013 | <elinenbe> did you use the 25% OFF code from techbargains.com? | ||
1014 | <dwihno> nay | ||
1015 | <elinenbe> there is no cupon.. I'm just having some fun :-) | ||
1016 | <dwihno> I thought you were | ||
1017 | <dwihno> I just hope I will get the computer soon | ||
1018 | <dwihno> At least, the order has been placed. | ||
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1020 | <dwihno> tjoho ironin! | ||
1021 | <dwihno> ironi: now I've ordered the new computer! :D | ||
1022 | <dwihno> yay x 10 | ||
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1025 | <ironi> lalala | ||
1026 | <ironi> hi all | ||
1027 | <ironi> your UI man is here | ||
1028 | <ironi> =) | ||
1029 | <dwihno> where? | ||
1030 | * dwihno looks around | ||
1031 | <dwihno> I can't see anything | ||
1032 | <dwihno> Well, I'm off for the weekend | ||
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1034 | <elinenbe> ironi: have you done anything with the UI yet? | ||
1035 | <ironi> elinenbe: well no =) | ||
1036 | <ironi> I can suggest changes and let ppl who know more implement them hehe | ||
1037 | <elinenbe> oh.... I see | ||
1038 | <elinenbe> I can do that too :) | ||
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1040 | <elinenbe> when I am compiling the firmware. I get an error... | ||
1041 | <elinenbe> drivers/button.c: In function `button_tick': | ||
1042 | <elinenbe> drivers/button.c:70: `NULL' undeclared (first use in this function) | ||
1043 | <elinenbe> can anyone help me | ||
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1046 | <ironi> music of the day (MOTD) : cd1-12-armand_van_helden-why_cant_you_free_some_time_(-lbe.mp3 | ||
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1068 | <g003y> YO! | ||
1069 | <g003y> dang... everyone is sleeping or working :/ | ||
1070 | <adi|work> whats up? | ||
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1074 | <g003y> heya adi | ||
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1076 | <g003y> heya elinenbe | ||
1077 | <elinenbe> hey there. | ||
1078 | <elinenbe> you are compiling under cygwin -- right? | ||
1079 | <g003y> yeah | ||
1080 | <elinenbe> can you step me through it really fast. when you install cygwin do what options did you check? | ||
1081 | <elinenbe> I could not get it to compile today -- it told me I was missing the header files. | ||
1082 | <elinenbe> string.h | ||
1083 | <elinenbe> stdio.h | ||
1084 | <elinenbe> etc... | ||
1085 | <g003y> oh | ||
1086 | <g003y> did you install gcc with cygwin? | ||
1087 | <elinenbe> yeah | ||
1088 | <elinenbe> I should not do that -- right? | ||
1089 | <g003y> no. | ||
1090 | <elinenbe> what packages should I select? | ||
1091 | <g003y> you need gcc to get to the cross compiled one | ||
1092 | <g003y> I don't think it's a package issue | ||
1093 | <g003y> string.h is standard lib | ||
1094 | <elinenbe> well, then binutils asks for a cc compiler? | ||
1095 | <elinenbe> yeah I know. | ||
1096 | <g003y> you may have to mod that make for binutils then | ||
1097 | <elinenbe> how did you do it? | ||
1098 | <g003y> I'm trying to recall the steps in my crusty brain here :D | ||
1099 | <g003y> I'm not near my install | ||
1100 | <elinenbe> I am going to do a default cygwin install... | ||
1101 | <g003y> yeah but I encountered the cc problem you had | ||
1102 | <elinenbe> oh. | ||
1103 | <elinenbe> I should install cygwin without gcc -- right? | ||
1104 | <g003y> I know I have a solution. I believe I edited the makefile and changed CC=cc to CC=gcc | ||
1105 | <elinenbe> oh... ok | ||
1106 | <g003y> no you need an initial gcc to get things done | ||
1107 | <elinenbe> then I should install gcc? | ||
1108 | <g003y> yeah | ||
1109 | <g003y> then you update it when you do Zagor's instructions | ||
1110 | <elinenbe> ok, so I am installing cygwin default, with gcc | ||
1111 | <g003y> don't forget make as well | ||
1112 | <g003y> :D | ||
1113 | <elinenbe> ok. | ||
1114 | <elinenbe> which make. | ||
1115 | <g003y> the make proggy | ||
1116 | <elinenbe> I am just doing the standard configure/make/make install | ||
1117 | <g003y> I'm sure it installs by default | ||
1118 | <elinenbe> well, I will tell you. | ||
1119 | <g003y> the missing string.h is probably a pathing issue you're having | ||
1120 | <elinenbe> well, it was there in /usr/include | ||
1121 | <g003y> yeah but on mine it wouldn't find it with cygwin for some reason | ||
1122 | <g003y> I had to put it right into the makefiles that required it | ||
1123 | <g003y> then compiles worked | ||
1124 | <elinenbe> what do you mean you had to put it right into the make file? | ||
1125 | <elinenbe> the path? | ||
1126 | <g003y> yeah | ||
1127 | <g003y> -I/usr/include | ||
1128 | <g003y> then compiles worked | ||
1129 | <elinenbe> oh... ok | ||
1130 | <elinenbe> well, that is all I think I needed to do then | ||
1131 | <g003y> for some reason it doesn't pick it up | ||
1132 | <g003y> oh ok | ||
1133 | <g003y> well then try that :D | ||
1134 | <elinenbe> everything was compiling okay, except that. | ||
1135 | <g003y> oh | ||
1136 | <g003y> then you're far enough along that it's probably that bit | ||
1137 | <g003y> I haven't gone back to shell setup to figure it out as it's easy enough to put that extra include in the Makefiles. | ||
1138 | <elinenbe> brb | ||
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1141 | <PsycoXul> boy it takes faaaar too long for archos' firmware to load just the first 999 tracks of my wholedisk playlist heh | ||
1142 | <elinenbe> I think the rockbox version takes too long | ||
1143 | <PsycoXul> heh | ||
1144 | <PsycoXul> oh yeah? | ||
1145 | <elinenbe> yeah! | ||
1146 | <elinenbe> 2 seconds is WAY too long :) | ||
1147 | <PsycoXul> hehe | ||
1148 | <PsycoXul> yeah | ||
1149 | <elinenbe> I am just kidding | ||
1150 | <PsycoXul> well the new technology | ||
1151 | <elinenbe> the rockbox firmware is quite nice | ||
1152 | <PsycoXul> based on precessional resonance | ||
1153 | <elinenbe> did you do the playlist code? | ||
1154 | <PsycoXul> and subatomic manipulations rather than interatomic motions | ||
1155 | <PsycoXul> will be much more capable than our current "electronic" technology is | ||
1156 | <elinenbe> I see... | ||
1157 | <PsycoXul> me code? hah... | ||
1158 | <PsycoXul> i play with code sometimes... i even write some interesting things... but i don't really code :p | ||
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1162 | <g003y> psyco- does the rockbox code actually play the songs in the playlist for you? | ||
1163 | <PsycoXul> not last i tried | ||
1164 | <g003y> ok then I'm not crazy | ||
1165 | <g003y> I compiled last night, but no go on playing the songs | ||
1166 | <g003y> but it sure as heck loaded te playlist fast :D | ||
1167 | <PsycoXul> hehe | ||
1168 | <PsycoXul> yeah | ||
1169 | <g003y> I'll have to update my code tonight to see if something got submitted. | ||
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1189 | <ironi> hey Bagder | ||
1190 | <Bagder> hey ho | ||
1191 | <ironi> just got up? | ||
1192 | <Bagder> no | ||
1193 | <edx> hi as well :) | ||
1194 | <ironi> Heh I got up, and breafast was served, total luxury. | ||
1195 | <ironi> hey edx | ||
1196 | <ironi> My gf is visiting, heh. | ||
1197 | <ironi> *practical* | ||
1198 | <Bagder> my wife took off for the rest of the day ;-) | ||
1199 | <ironi> hehe, sounds like you can sit in front of the computer without hearing "Will you ever get off that thing?" | ||
1200 | <Bagder> heheh, exactly | ||
1201 | <ironi> I know that feeling | ||
1202 | <ironi> "Can't you just let it go when I'm here" | ||
1203 | <Bagder> ... with references to the fine weather etc ;-) | ||
1204 | <ironi> hehe | ||
1205 | <ironi> well i hear the weather rocks in sthlm the last days | ||
1206 | <ironi> here it's crap the last week | ||
1207 | <Bagder> hey | ||
1208 | <Bagder> I made 26 changes in the last daily build | ||
1209 | <Bagder> alone | ||
1210 | <Bagder> we should get the guys work more ;-) | ||
1211 | * edx stares on his feet | ||
1212 | <Bagder> hehe | ||
1213 | * dw|gone is _NOT_ here ;) | ||
1214 | <Bagder> the win32 build broke, didn't it? | ||
1215 | <edx> huh? | ||
1216 | <Bagder> I think I broke it | ||
1217 | <edx> didnt try (even more staring to my feet) | ||
1218 | * Bagder pleads guilty | ||
1219 | <edx> congrats :P | ||
1220 | <Bagder> http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/daily/changes-20020615.txt | ||
1221 | <Bagder> read the first change mentioned ;-) | ||
1222 | <edx> LOL | ||
1223 | <edx> *compiling* | ||
1224 | <edx> one unresolved external... :) | ||
1225 | <edx> what file is this/ | ||
1226 | <edx> ? | ||
1227 | <Bagder> current_tick, right? | ||
1228 | <edx> sure hehe | ||
1229 | <edx> what file is it in and what shall it do? | ||
1230 | <Bagder> I "fake" it, check uisim/x11/thread.c | ||
1231 | <Bagder> just increase it every now and then ;-) | ||
1232 | <edx> k | ||
1233 | <Bagder> in target it is incremented by the timer interrupt | ||
1234 | <edx> in what timespan is the interrupt called | ||
1235 | <Bagder> I'm not sure, but it might be something like 50ms between | ||
1236 | <edx> when do you increase it? | ||
1237 | <Bagder> on yield() and on sleep() | ||
1238 | <Bagder> I just add 3 in yeild and 5 in sleep() | ||
1239 | <edx> aha | ||
1240 | <Bagder> just to make it continue "growing" | ||
1241 | <edx> ill set up a timer :) | ||
1242 | <edx> hmm this is a variable or a function (just a variable, right?) | ||
1243 | <Bagder> you could do that, if you think that'll be more fun ;-) | ||
1244 | <Bagder> just a variable, yes | ||
1245 | <edx> more code more fun lol | ||
1246 | <Bagder> hehe | ||
1247 | <edx> where is current_tick declared (header file..)? | ||
1248 | <Bagder> kernel.h | ||
1249 | <edx> (ok.. works) | ||
1250 | <Bagder> neato | ||
1251 | <edx> hey cool.. the scroll character for the recorder changed. nice | ||
1252 | <Bagder> yeah | ||
1253 | <Bagder> I never liked using only a minus | ||
1254 | <edx> for the player its a questionmark on the simulator... is that correct ?! | ||
1255 | <Bagder> yes | ||
1256 | <Bagder> we should fix that too | ||
1257 | <Bagder> it's a special character on the target | ||
1258 | <edx> ok | ||
1259 | <Bagder> we just don't have that in the simulator charset | ||
1260 | <Bagder> seen the new link on the compile status table too? | ||
1261 | <edx> .. no? | ||
1262 | <Bagder> it makes it easy to see which changes that were committed just before the automatic build | ||
1263 | <edx> changelog you mean? | ||
1264 | <edx> that is great | ||
1265 | <Bagder> no I meant down in the "CVS compile status" table | ||
1266 | <Bagder> the "batch" dates are now links | ||
1267 | <edx> cool.. it colors warnings :) | ||
1268 | <Bagder> yeps | ||
1269 | <edx> .. could you do me a favour? | ||
1270 | <Bagder> sure, what? | ||
1271 | <edx> http://codeforce.d2g.com/new/ this page.. does it look ok in linux? | ||
1272 | <edx> (heh.. i registered a channel on openprojects.net as well lol... this irc is really useful) | ||
1273 | <Bagder> looks fine | ||
1274 | <edx> ok.. thanks | ||
1275 | --- edx is now known as edx|eating | ||
1276 | --- edx|eating is now known as edx | ||
1277 | --- edx is now known as edx|eating | ||
1278 | * Bagder commits | ||
1279 | --- edx|eating is now known as edx | ||
1280 | <edx> broken my build again?! hehe | ||
1281 | <Bagder> heh, no, I made it nicer ;-) | ||
1282 | <Bagder> fixed the cursor on the simulated player | ||
1283 | <edx> (my build?!) hehe... | ||
1284 | <edx> ah cool | ||
1285 | <edx> thats good | ||
1286 | <Bagder> should work fine for you too | ||
1287 | <edx> hmm we should add win32 simulator for the daily page :) | ||
1288 | <edx> but i see no way how this would be possible :/ | ||
1289 | <Bagder> there's no x11 simulator build daily either | ||
1290 | <Bagder> only automaticly for the build status one | ||
1291 | <Bagder> maybe that's what you meant? | ||
1292 | <edx> yea | ||
1293 | <edx> but theres a report for the sim | ||
1294 | <Bagder> yes | ||
1295 | <Bagder> it's easy to build automaticly | ||
1296 | <edx> and why is there a P-Old sim.. thats the same as p-sim, right? | ||
1297 | <Bagder> hehe, yes it should be pretty much exactly the same ;-) | ||
1298 | <edx> (why is tehre a p-old at all.. its only one step) | ||
1299 | <Bagder> p-old has a different lcd | ||
1300 | <edx> oh.. ok | ||
1301 | <Bagder> that's why | ||
1302 | <edx> maybe i could provide a daily build page for the win32 simulator on my server. | ||
1303 | <Bagder> sure! | ||
1304 | <edx> but i couldn't get it update automatically i guess (i could update it everytime i change something) | ||
1305 | <Bagder> but then we won't see it break if someone else change something... | ||
1306 | <edx> hmm yea | ||
1307 | <edx> the problem is that my server doesnt have visual studio installed... | ||
1308 | <edx> .. well i have an idea.. but it needs a testing.. maybe i could get it to work | ||
1309 | <edx> it would need to checkout, compile, generate a webpage... | ||
1310 | <edx> that's gets less and less a problem the more i think about it | ||
1311 | <edx> be right back. | ||
1312 | --- edx is now known as edx|brb | ||
1313 | <Bagder> :-) | ||
1314 | --- edx|brb is now known as edx | ||
1315 | <edx> Bagder: I am trying to get things compiled on my server now, if it works, i'll set up a page which updates hourly and contains the last 24 compilation reports | ||
1316 | <Bagder> cool! | ||
1317 | <edx> i hope it work if i just copy some files and dont intsall visual studio | ||
1318 | * Bagder writes new screen savers ;-) | ||
1319 | <dw|gone> YAY! | ||
1320 | <dw|gone> :D | ||
1321 | <Bagder> hehe | ||
1322 | <Bagder> hey, I *am* an old demo coder ;-) | ||
1323 | <edx> lol .. write the sine wave for rockbox hehe | ||
1324 | <Bagder> I do! | ||
1325 | <edx> cool :) | ||
1326 | <edx> screensave should be activated automatically after 5 mins of non-action lol | ||
1327 | <Bagder> right now, I have a 'R' that flies around the screen in a circle ;-) | ||
1328 | <edx> hehe | ||
1329 | <dw|gone> Whoa | ||
1330 | <dw|gone> evil stuff ): | ||
1331 | <dw|gone> ): | ||
1332 | <dw|gone> ): | ||
1333 | <dw|gone> :) | ||
1334 | <dw|gone> <-- is mongo today | ||
1335 | <Bagder> it looks pretty cool | ||
1336 | <dw|gone> flies around? | ||
1337 | <Bagder> yeah, "ROCKbox" | ||
1338 | <Bagder> all letters independently | ||
1339 | <dw|gone> cool :) | ||
1340 | <Bagder> on a sine wave | ||
1341 | <dw|gone> I guess I'll have to see it for myself | ||
1342 | <dw|gone> I'll check the build on monday morning | ||
1343 | <Bagder> hm, I wonder if I can make the rockbox logo be in the background... | ||
1344 | <dw|gone> hehe :) | ||
1345 | <dw|gone> demo coding for the archos | ||
1346 | <dw|gone> perfect for some wild compo ;) | ||
1347 | <Bagder> hahaha | ||
1348 | <dw|gone> Well, at least, the music is not a problem ;) | ||
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1352 | <Bagder> it does require some minor lcd fixes... :-) | ||
1353 | * Bagder jumps in | ||
1354 | <Bagder> time to try on target | ||
1355 | * dw|gone is trying to focus on the code, and not on the fact that he's hungry like a wolf | ||
1356 | <Bagder> rock! | ||
1357 | <Bagder> http://storebror.haxx.se/archos/ | ||
1358 | <dw|gone> *yawn* | ||
1359 | <dw|gone> I'll test it, just for your sake ;) | ||
1360 | <Bagder> hehe | ||
1361 | <Bagder> it is just totally useless, but its fun ;-) | ||
1362 | <Bagder> I'm considering a game now ;-) | ||
1363 | <dw|gone> what about fixing broken code? :) | ||
1364 | <Bagder> nah, not as fun | ||
1365 | <Bagder> hehe | ||
1366 | <Bagder> like what code are you referring to? | ||
1367 | <dw|gone> dunno :) | ||
1368 | <dw|gone> Sometimes it locks when I start fiddling with the volume | ||
1369 | <dw|gone> hahaha | ||
1370 | <dw|gone> you are really sick :) | ||
1371 | * Bagder grins | ||
1372 | <dw|gone> really neat :) | ||
1373 | <Bagder> and they fly! ;-) | ||
1374 | <dw|gone> How come the directory browsing is 100 times faster with rockbox? | ||
1375 | <Bagder> no idea | ||
1376 | <dw|gone> I mean, when entering new dirs | ||
1377 | <Bagder> they must be doing something terrible | ||
1378 | <dw|gone> yeah | ||
1379 | <dw|gone> and the scroller still scrolls when going across dirs :) | ||
1380 | <dw|gone> If the LCD flickering stops and we get mp3 decoding, I'll start using it rightaway :) | ||
1381 | <Bagder> I agree | ||
1382 | <dw|gone> pok?mon instead of pokémon | ||
1383 | <Bagder> with our playlist support too, it'll be a killer | ||
1384 | <dw|gone> yeah | ||
1385 | <Bagder> yeah, we have no such letter | ||
1386 | <dw|gone> aren't you using the built in font? | ||
1387 | <Bagder> there is no built-in on the recorder | ||
1388 | <dw|gone> ah... | ||
1389 | <Bagder> 100% "home made" ;-) | ||
1390 | <dw|gone> ah, that's why it's butt ugly ;) | ||
1391 | * Bagder nods | ||
1392 | <dw|gone> 5x7 in a 6x8 space? | ||
1393 | <Bagder> yes | ||
1394 | <dw|gone> Less than 7 pixels vertical will not look good, but I guess it's possible to narrow it down a bit horizontally | ||
1395 | <Bagder> Yes, at least some letters | ||
1396 | <dw|gone> The main issue is long filenames | ||
1397 | <dw|gone> !¤"#! archos firmware won't even show the entire filenames ,) | ||
1398 | <dw|gone> is it possible to have 2+ simultaneous scrollers? | ||
1399 | <Bagder> edx: around? | ||
1400 | <Bagder> dw|gone: oh sure | ||
1401 | <dw|gone> with the current code, thatis | ||
1402 | <dw|gone> how do you keep the scroller running while accessing the disk at the same time? | ||
1403 | <Bagder> we use several threads | ||
1404 | <Bagder> the scrolling is in its own thread | ||
1405 | <dw|gone> Do you think the archos firmware has threading? | ||
1406 | <Bagder> I don't think so | ||
1407 | <Bagder> but they could and perhaps have other limits on their threads than we do | ||
1408 | <dw|gone> how big is the firmware without the padding atm? | ||
1409 | <Bagder> lemme check | ||
1410 | <Bagder> hm | ||
1411 | <Bagder> I don't quite get the map file | ||
1412 | <dw|gone> mkay | ||
1413 | <dw|gone> well, approx 20k? | ||
1414 | <Bagder> when loaded, we use 4de4c ram | ||
1415 | <dw|gone> 320k | ||
1416 | <dw|gone> do you know how much the original firmware uses? | ||
1417 | <Bagder> no | ||
1418 | <Bagder> I guess I could figure out by checking my dissassembly | ||
1419 | <Bagder> anyway, included in those 320K is our malloc heap etc | ||
1420 | <Bagder> currently we have no code that use malloc() ;-) | ||
1421 | <Bagder> the code is about 32700 bytes | ||
1422 | <Bagder> in this recorder build | ||
1423 | <Bagder> ouch, yellow alert! | ||
1424 | <elinenbe> Badger: you want to program a game -- try sokoban :) | ||
1425 | <Bagder> hehehe | ||
1426 | <Bagder> I'm thinking pong... | ||
1427 | <dw|gone> what is sokoban? | ||
1428 | <dw|gone> what about arkanoid? :) | ||
1429 | <Bagder> http://verde666.org/sed/sokoban/ | ||
1430 | <dw|gone> and has Linus started looking on the decoder chip? | ||
1431 | <Bagder> its written using 'sed' | ||
1432 | <Bagder> yes | ||
1433 | * dw|gone is like a kid in a candy store | ||
1434 | <dw|gone> Rockbox already rocks without any music ;D | ||
1435 | <dw|gone> erhgm | ||
1436 | <dw|gone> With a screenshot, I STILL DON'T understadn sokoban :) | ||
1437 | <Bagder> its just the ultimate geek thing, to write a game using a tool meant for search/replace | ||
1438 | <dw|gone> aaaah :) | ||
1439 | <dw|gone> I see | ||
1440 | <Bagder> I never played it ;-) | ||
1441 | <dw|gone> I test it now :) | ||
1442 | <dw|gone> There was a port for gameboy called boxxle | ||
1443 | <dw|gone> fancy :) | ||
1444 | <dw|gone> Darn | ||
1445 | <dw|gone> 16:00 | ||
1446 | <dw|gone> I should finish what I'm working on and go homo | ||
1447 | <dw|gone> home ;) | ||
1448 | <dw|gone> hah | ||
1449 | <Bagder> freudian slip? ;-) | ||
1450 | <dw|gone> hehe | ||
1451 | <dw|gone> dunno | ||
1452 | <dw|gone> how many entries does the playlist support by default? | ||
1453 | <Bagder> you mean non-rockbox? | ||
1454 | <dw|gone> no, rockbox :) | ||
1455 | <Bagder> 10000 | ||
1456 | <edx> Does anyone of you know Java a little? | ||
1457 | <dw|gone> mkay | ||
1458 | <Bagder> edx: euuh, a little, yes ;-) | ||
1459 | <dw|gone> great :D | ||
1460 | <dw|gone> I'll test loading a huge playlist | ||
1461 | <edx> Bagder: what does thius line do: | ||
1462 | <Bagder> dw|gone: Björn has 40GB, he has no more than 5500 songs ;-) | ||
1463 | <edx> inURL = new URL(getCodeBase(), infile); | ||
1464 | <dw|gone> it constructs a url | ||
1465 | <edx> ok thats what i know as well.. what will the url look like? | ||
1466 | <dw|gone> codebase sounds JSP'ish | ||
1467 | <dw|gone> I dunno if it does some base64 encoding too perhaps | ||
1468 | <edx> ahhh .. i think i got it. | ||
1469 | <edx> thanks | ||
1470 | <dw|gone> heh.. thanks for nothing ;) | ||
1471 | <Bagder> edx: .. eeeeh... uuuuh. "win32 simulator break alert" :-) | ||
1472 | <Bagder> is there any way I can add a file to your build? | ||
1473 | <dw|gone> is rockbox capable of building playlists by itself yet? | ||
1474 | <Bagder> no | ||
1475 | <Bagder> we don't even have the write() function enabled | ||
1476 | <dw|gone> aah | ||
1477 | <dw|gone> smart | ||
1478 | <Bagder> yeah, its for safety | ||
1479 | <Bagder> we have no functions for altering disk contents yet | ||
1480 | <dw|gone> I like the boot speed of rockbox | ||
1481 | * Bagder agrees | ||
1482 | <dw|gone> Would be neat to know what exactly the archos firmware does that takes so much time | ||
1483 | <Bagder> yes | ||
1484 | <Bagder> it is possible we might need to do a few of those things too in the future | ||
1485 | <dw|gone> any ideas of what? | ||
1486 | <dw|gone> it shows the disk label as a file btw | ||
1487 | <Bagder> I have no clue really, I just mean that we haven't quite investigated everything yet | ||
1488 | <dw|gone> "INSANITY.!" | ||
1489 | <dw|gone> true, true | ||
1490 | <dw|gone> it's not possible to switch it off with the power cord in | ||
1491 | <Bagder> no | ||
1492 | <dw|gone> Time to check how fast it loads a 3000 track playlist | ||
1493 | <dw|gone> whoa | ||
1494 | <dw|gone> it interprets #-lines as files | ||
1495 | <Bagder> yes | ||
1496 | <Bagder> right | ||
1497 | <Bagder> I fix | ||
1498 | <Bagder> do they all start with # in the first column? | ||
1499 | <dw|gone> yeah | ||
1500 | <dw|gone> winamp-style | ||
1501 | <dw|gone> it loads the playlist FAAAAAAAST! :D | ||
1502 | <dw|gone> In just a couple of seconds | ||
1503 | <Bagder> about 1000 songs per second | ||
1504 | <Bagder> that is many many times faster than the built-in | ||
1505 | <dw|gone> hehe | ||
1506 | <dw|gone> yeah | ||
1507 | <dw|gone> 1 song per second is the firmware default ;) | ||
1508 | <dw|gone> or perhaps 10 | ||
1509 | <dw|gone> but that's not close to 1000 ;) | ||
1510 | <Bagder> it is an amazingly huge diff actually | ||
1511 | <dw|gone> what happens when the unit runs of battery? | ||
1512 | <dw|gone> with rockbox firmware, that is | ||
1513 | <Bagder> it dies ;-) | ||
1514 | <Bagder> I mean run out of battery | ||
1515 | <Bagder> just running on battery is no diff than with power cord | ||
1516 | <dw|gone> I just wonder if there is some kind of shutdown procedure required not to harm the hard disk | ||
1517 | <Bagder> well | ||
1518 | <Bagder> I think we should try to do that, yes | ||
1519 | <Bagder> # support added | ||
1520 | <dw|gone> yay ;D | ||
1521 | <dw|gone> is the directory browser 100%? | ||
1522 | <dw|gone> I mean, showing every file and such | ||
1523 | <Bagder> yes, there's a maximum amount of files in a single dir I believe though | ||
1524 | <dw|gone> I have a dir with 4 dirs and 1 pls | ||
1525 | <dw|gone> it didn't show the pls | ||
1526 | <dw|gone> m3u | ||
1527 | <Bagder> ! | ||
1528 | <Bagder> what is the playlist called? | ||
1529 | <dw|gone> Everything.m3u | ||
1530 | <dw|gone> in my dir "Electronica" | ||
1531 | <Bagder> weird | ||
1532 | <Bagder> and it happens all the time? | ||
1533 | <dw|gone> nope only once | ||
1534 | <dw|gone> now it shows " - Der Sinn d" instead of Welle erdball | ||
1535 | <Bagder> ok | ||
1536 | <dw|gone> Der Sinn des Lebens is a subdir in "Welle erdball" | ||
1537 | <Bagder> hm | ||
1538 | <dw|gone> oops | ||
1539 | <dw|gone> I just caused a hang | ||
1540 | <Bagder> I wonder if there's some bug in the target dir read code | ||
1541 | <dw|gone> Trying to load a m3u with | ||
1542 | <dw|gone> \ in the filename | ||
1543 | <dw|gone> argh | ||
1544 | <dw|gone> it's a live | ||
1545 | <Bagder> it died while loading the playlist? | ||
1546 | <dw|gone> it died for a lot of seconds | ||
1547 | <dw|gone> then it began to live again | ||
1548 | * elinenbe decide to go run 100 miles while gcc builds... and then MAYBE it will be done. | ||
1549 | <Bagder> hehe, yeah it can take a while ;-) | ||
1550 | <elinenbe> not as long as anything that is qt/kde | ||
1551 | <Bagder> heheh | ||
1552 | <elinenbe> koffice took forever on a 2x1500mhz pc | ||
1553 | <Bagder> luckily, rockbox builds blazingly fast ;-) | ||
1554 | <dw|gone> :) | ||
1555 | <elinenbe> Badger: if I want to add " -I/usr/include " to the makefile, where would I put it? | ||
1556 | <Bagder> firmware/Makefile and apps/Makefile | ||
1557 | <elinenbe> I am compiling under cygwin and for some reason it does not find the header files. | ||
1558 | <elinenbe> yeah, but how do I add it into the makefile? | ||
1559 | <Bagder> both of them have a line like "INCLUDES=" where you can add that extra -I | ||
1560 | <Bagder> if this is a problem to more people, we could probably fix this better | ||
1561 | <elinenbe> the apps makefiles does, but the tools/makefile does not. | ||
1562 | <elinenbe> It is for anyone compiling under cygwin | ||
1563 | <Bagder> not tools, firmware | ||
1564 | <elinenbe> g003y had this problem | ||
1565 | <Bagder> hm, ok | ||
1566 | <elinenbe> too | ||
1567 | <Bagder> I think I know the fix for this problem | ||
1568 | <Bagder> we must add header files to our project, since we don't use newlib anymore | ||
1569 | <elinenbe> that could be the thing | ||
1570 | <Bagder> you build without newlib, right? | ||
1571 | <elinenbe> yeah | ||
1572 | <elinenbe> I did not donload it or anything. | ||
1573 | <Bagder> so that's it | ||
1574 | <Bagder> we need to supply a bunch of headers ourselves | ||
1575 | <elinenbe> huff.. when I do a make all | ||
1576 | <elinenbe> I get this garbage | ||
1577 | <elinenbe> Eric@VIOLET ~/rockbox-daily-20020615/tools | ||
1578 | <elinenbe> $ make all | ||
1579 | <elinenbe> make -C ../firmware TARGET=-DARCHOS_RECORDER NODEBUG=1 OBJDIR="/home/Eric/rockbo | ||
1580 | <elinenbe> x-daily-20020615/tools" | ||
1581 | <elinenbe> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/Eric/rockbox-daily-20020615/firmware' | ||
1582 | <elinenbe> Updating dependencies for thread.c | ||
1583 | <elinenbe> Updating dependencies for system.c | ||
1584 | <elinenbe> system.c:19:19: warning: stdio.h: No such file or directory | ||
1585 | <elinenbe> Updating dependencies for settings.c | ||
1586 | <elinenbe> settings.c:20:19: warning: stdio.h: No such file or directory | ||
1587 | <elinenbe> Updating dependencies for panic.c | ||
1588 | <elinenbe> panic.c:20:19: warning: stdio.h: No such file or directory | ||
1589 | <elinenbe> and more and more of that... | ||
1590 | <elinenbe> it can not find the standard header files at all | ||
1591 | <Bagder> right, that's why we need to provide our own | ||
1592 | <elinenbe> is there any way around this for me? | ||
1593 | <Bagder> did you add -I/usr/include in the firmware/Makefile ? | ||
1594 | <elinenbe> yeah | ||
1595 | <elinenbe> hold on... | ||
1596 | <elinenbe> I added a /usr/includes by mistake | ||
1597 | <Bagder> ah | ||
1598 | <elinenbe> in tools I did a 'make clean' | ||
1599 | <elinenbe> make all | ||
1600 | <elinenbe> and then still get an error... | ||
1601 | <elinenbe> this is witht the most recent tarball | ||
1602 | <elinenbe> make[1]: sh-elf-a: Command not found | ||
1603 | <elinenbe> make[1]: *** [/home/Eric/rockbox-daily-20020615/tools/librockbox.a] Error 127 | ||
1604 | <elinenbe> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/Eric/rockbox-daily-20020615/firmware' | ||
1605 | <elinenbe> make: *** [firmware] Error 2 | ||
1606 | <Bagder> ! | ||
1607 | <Bagder> in tools? | ||
1608 | <elinenbe> I am just doing a make clean | ||
1609 | <elinenbe> make install | ||
1610 | <elinenbe> in the toold directory <-- that should build everything -- right? | ||
1611 | <Bagder> hm | ||
1612 | <elinenbe> but the make gives me that error. | ||
1613 | <Bagder> did you run the configure script in the tools directory? | ||
1614 | <elinenbe> yeah | ||
1615 | <elinenbe> I'll do that again to make sure everything is cool | ||
1616 | <Bagder> you should rather create a separate build directory and run the configure script there | ||
1617 | <elinenbe> ok | ||
1618 | <Bagder> mkdir ../build; cd ../build; ../tools/configure | ||
1619 | <elinenbe> I get the same thing | ||
1620 | <elinenbe> "sh-elf-a: command not found" | ||
1621 | <Bagder> is your PATH setup to include the dir with the sh-gcc tools? | ||
1622 | <elinenbe> lemme check | ||
1623 | <elinenbe> I followed the direction on the web page... the path should be something like "~/sh1/bin" | ||
1624 | <elinenbe> well, that is in the path | ||
1625 | <Bagder> make sure it is $HOME/ and not ~/ | ||
1626 | <Bagder> or full path | ||
1627 | <elinenbe> it is $HOME | ||
1628 | <elinenbe> acutally the full path | ||
1629 | <Bagder> ok | ||
1630 | <elinenbe> in /sh1/bin I do not have a sh-elf-a, I have sh-elf-ar and sh-elf-as though | ||
1631 | <Bagder> yeah | ||
1632 | <Bagder> but if you check the Makefile, it uses as and ar only | ||
1633 | <elinenbe> ok | ||
1634 | <Bagder> seems to be the ar line that goes wrong | ||
1635 | <Bagder> it compiles all c source first, doesn't it? | ||
1636 | <elinenbe> the ar line in the makefile is messed up; | ||
1637 | <elinenbe> AR = sh-elf-a | ||
1638 | <elinenbe> that is what it says | ||
1639 | <Bagder> in the Makefile? | ||
1640 | <elinenbe> yeah, all the C code is great | ||
1641 | <elinenbe> yeah | ||
1642 | <Bagder> your Makefile must've been ruined somehow | ||
1643 | <elinenbe> in firmware/Makefile | ||
1644 | <Bagder> should be -ar | ||
1645 | <elinenbe> well, I just got it from the tarball... | ||
1646 | <Bagder> odd | ||
1647 | <Bagder> I'll check the tarball | ||
1648 | <elinenbe> i just checked it -- it is there | ||
1649 | <elinenbe> I must have messed oit up. | ||
1650 | <Bagder> ah, ok | ||
1651 | <elinenbe> thanks for the help | ||
1652 | <Bagder> no problems | ||
1653 | <elinenbe> now my enviroment is all nice :) | ||
1654 | <elinenbe> there we go... | ||
1655 | <Bagder> we'll sort out the include problem too | ||
1656 | <elinenbe> no problem. | ||
1657 | <elinenbe> it works fine with the include added to the makefile. Is that not an ok solution? | ||
1658 | <Bagder> sure its ok | ||
1659 | <Bagder> when it makes it annoying if you wanna update often | ||
1660 | <Bagder> s/when/but | ||
1661 | <elinenbe> one last thing: how do I compile the scramble.c file? | ||
1662 | <Bagder> when you ran configure in that dir, the original Makefile was overwritten. Get the orginal one back and run make in there | ||
1663 | <elinenbe> ok | ||
1664 | <elinenbe> will do. | ||
1665 | <elinenbe> Badger: thanks so much, everything is going great | ||
1666 | <Bagder> goodie | ||
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1671 | <Bagder> bbl | ||
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1678 | <g003y> heya | ||
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1685 | <g003y> heya bagder | ||
1686 | <Bagder> hey ho | ||
1687 | <g003y> nice work on that include issue | ||
1688 | <Bagder> thanks, but we're not quite there yet ;-) | ||
1689 | <g003y> does the -I/to/whatever still need to be added to the makefiles? | ||
1690 | <Bagder> yes, I didn't really change this yet | ||
1691 | <g003y> ahhhh | ||
1692 | <g003y> ok | ||
1693 | <Bagder> I'm only preparing | ||
1694 | <g003y> well at least you figured out the prob | ||
1695 | <g003y> All I knew was the -I fixed it for me :D | ||
1696 | <Bagder> :-) | ||
1697 | <g003y> but I figured it was cygwin being all dumb on win32 | ||
1698 | <Bagder> so is your "play-screen" coming anywhere? | ||
1699 | <g003y> well I haven't done a ton of work recently. | ||
1700 | <g003y> I did get setup on source forge | ||
1701 | <g003y> basically right now I can compile to choose between a file scroll or id3 display | ||
1702 | <g003y> though I'm looking into modding the settings to store it and make it user selectable | ||
1703 | <Bagder> user settable is nice | ||
1704 | <g003y> then I will add a 3rd set of logic that will attempt to pull apart directory/filename for information | ||
1705 | <g003y> so it looks id3 ish | ||
1706 | <Bagder> remember that we can't yet store anything on disk | ||
1707 | <g003y> yup | ||
1708 | <g003y> I see the writes still return 1l | ||
1709 | <g003y> without doing anything :D | ||
1710 | <Bagder> hehe | ||
1711 | <g003y> so what I will do now is make the default option switchable on compile | ||
1712 | <g003y> then ppl will just be able to change it on the fly if they need to | ||
1713 | <Bagder> sounds fine | ||
1714 | <g003y> question for ya | ||
1715 | <g003y> do the playlists actually play? | ||
1716 | <Bagder> yes | ||
1717 | <g003y> dang.... | ||
1718 | <g003y> for some reason I can't get mine going | ||
1719 | <g003y> it scans it and just sits there | ||
1720 | <Bagder> oh | ||
1721 | <g003y> I tried making with vi, a script and winamp | ||
1722 | <g003y> nothing worked for me as of a couple days ago | ||
1723 | <Bagder> well, to tell you the truth, I wrote the code but I have a recorder so I can't really try it on target yet ;-) | ||
1724 | <g003y> hahahahahahahaha | ||
1725 | <g003y> well I haven't really debugged into it, but the logic looks correct | ||
1726 | <Bagder> we might need to get someone with gdb to look at it | ||
1727 | <g003y> yeah I've just been "printfing" to the screen for debugging output :D | ||
1728 | <Bagder> yeah, and the simulators are usually pretty good too to try stuff on | ||
1729 | <Bagder> but not when it comes to actual mp3 playback | ||
1730 | <g003y> I haven't gotten mine to succesfully compile yet | ||
1731 | <g003y> so like the old COBOL days.... I try to get it right on the first try :D | ||
1732 | <Bagder> the win32 one? | ||
1733 | <g003y> yeah | ||
1734 | <g003y> but it's probably just me | ||
1735 | <Bagder> I wouldn't know, I've never tried ;-) | ||
1736 | <Bagder> I'm on the x11 one | ||
1737 | <g003y> the x11 seems to have more compile directions | ||
1738 | <g003y> I got it to compile once when I first got the firmware. | ||
1739 | <g003y> though now... eh. | ||
1740 | <g003y> I just outright forgot how I managed it | ||
1741 | <g003y> I'll have to try again. | ||
1742 | <Bagder> it would be neat to get a cygwin version Makefile for the win32 simulator | ||
1743 | <g003y> oh hey. | ||
1744 | <g003y> there it goes with current | ||
1745 | <g003y> ok I was being a llame :D | ||
1746 | <g003y> llama that is | ||
1747 | <g003y> cute.... | ||
1748 | <g003y> I need to compile the player | ||
1749 | <g003y> version though | ||
1750 | <Bagder> yes | ||
1751 | <Bagder> it should be possible | ||
1752 | <g003y> ok so it pulls apps logic from the apps directory right? | ||
1753 | <Bagder> yes | ||
1754 | <g003y> good | ||
1755 | <g003y> no screwing around then :D | ||
1756 | <Bagder> the apps should run pretty much unaltered in target and simulators | ||
1757 | <g003y> _should_ hehehehheh | ||
1758 | <g003y> the true beauty of C :D | ||
1759 | <Bagder> right, we can never be completely sure | ||
1760 | <Bagder> hey, I wrote my flying rockbox this afternoon | ||
1761 | <Bagder> all in simulator | ||
1762 | <Bagder> worked on first attempt on target | ||
1763 | <g003y> flying rockbox? | ||
1764 | <Bagder> you should see it ;-) | ||
1765 | <Bagder> kind of a screensaver, totally useless | ||
1766 | <g003y> you mean the logo? | ||
1767 | <g003y> ha | ||
1768 | <g003y> that will only work on the recorder right? | ||
1769 | <Bagder> no, the text Rockbox flying around on sine waves | ||
1770 | <Bagder> yes | ||
1771 | <g003y> hhahahahah... cool. | ||
1772 | <Bagder> if you get the simulator working, you'll see it ;-) | ||
1773 | <elinenbe2> Badger: will that be included in the tarball tonight? | ||
1774 | <Bagder> hm, no | ||
1775 | <elinenbe2> that is a shame | ||
1776 | <Bagder> or what did you mean? | ||
1777 | <Bagder> the includes right? | ||
1778 | <elinenbe2> no, your sine rockbox | ||
1779 | <Bagder> ah, that'll be included | ||
1780 | <g003y> yeah only the important stuff first :D | ||
1781 | <Bagder> hehe | ||
1782 | <elinenbe2> I am building a sokoban clone. | ||
1783 | <elinenbe2> I will get it done within a day or two. | ||
1784 | <Bagder> we could pretend it is useful as it tests the lcd functions properly ;-) | ||
1785 | <elinenbe2> yeah :) | ||
1786 | <g003y> hey I think it's cool so it needs to be included anyway :D | ||
1787 | <elinenbe2> g003y: everything is up and running great under cugwin here... Badger helped me earlier today. | ||
1788 | <g003y> coool | ||
1789 | <g003y> what was the last you needed to do? | ||
1790 | <elinenbe2> I had to add the included to the Makefiles. | ||
1791 | <elinenbe2> that was about it. | ||
1792 | <g003y> yeah | ||
1793 | <g003y> thats what I was saying yesterday | ||
1794 | <g003y> a -I/usr/include right? | ||
1795 | <elinenbe2> ya | ||
1796 | <g003y> good deal. good to see you're up & running | ||
1797 | <elinenbe2> I am partially throguh a sokoban clone | ||
1798 | <elinenbe2> but, it is slow as I am running everything on the target. I am not able to compile the simulator. | ||
1799 | <g003y> I just got it to compile from current myself | ||
1800 | <elinenbe2> how were you able to do that? | ||
1801 | <g003y> I sync to cvs tree | ||
1802 | <elinenbe2> the windows simulator? | ||
1803 | <elinenbe2> ah... but what did you use to compile? | ||
1804 | <g003y> yeah I just tried with the latest source | ||
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1806 | <g003y> nmake from a dos window | ||
1807 | <elinenbe> oh | ||
1808 | <g003y> I have vc installed with all the paths | ||
1809 | <PsycoXul> so uh heh nobody's interested in writing a proper text viewer for the player's huh? | ||
1810 | <elinenbe> so do I, but no nmake. | ||
1811 | <Bagder> a text viewer should be really simple to write | ||
1812 | <g003y> you probably don't have all the paths registered in your environment for dos | ||
1813 | <PsycoXul> yeah it should be... | ||
1814 | <PsycoXul> i haven't had much luck with it though heh | ||
1815 | <g003y> you need to run the vcvars.bat which is somehere in the vc install dir | ||
1816 | <g003y> then run nmake in the uisimulator->win32 dir | ||
1817 | <elinenbe> ok | ||
1818 | <elinenbe> I will try that :) | ||
1819 | <g003y> text viewer? | ||
1820 | <g003y> like a text file? | ||
1821 | <PsycoXul> yeah | ||
1822 | <g003y> joc- why? | ||
1823 | <g003y> what you doing? | ||
1824 | <PsycoXul> huh? wanting to view text files? | ||
1825 | <PsycoXul> heh | ||
1826 | <g003y> yeah but just for the heck of it? | ||
1827 | <PsycoXul> no... for the ability to read books i've got on my archos while listening to music on it heh | ||
1828 | <g003y> ahhhhhhhh | ||
1829 | <elinenbe> I still can't run nmake. | ||
1830 | <g003y> thats some small text though. you'll be scrolling from here to kingdom come | ||
1831 | <PsycoXul> yes | ||
1832 | <PsycoXul> well you only really need 1 line... | ||
1833 | <g003y> yeah but you'd only get some many characters wide on that display | ||
1834 | <PsycoXul> i figure it'd be pretty usable if it scrolled by word | ||
1835 | <PsycoXul> except for words >11 chars | ||
1836 | <PsycoXul> heh | ||
1837 | <g003y> heheh | ||
1838 | <g003y> yeah you could scroll it, but I bet after all the work it wouldn't really be usable | ||
1839 | <g003y> in that sense | ||
1840 | <PsycoXul> nah i've played with a few different methods for it | ||
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1842 | <PsycoXul> and even scrolling by char isn't unusable | ||
1843 | <g003y> hmmm ok | ||
1844 | <g003y> you're a freak :D | ||
1845 | <PsycoXul> heh yeah | ||
1846 | <g003y> though a text viewer could be used in many interesting wayts | ||
1847 | <Bagder> on the recorder it could be neat | ||
1848 | <g003y> VI for Archos :D | ||
1849 | <PsycoXul> but i'm just a lousy coder who can't really do it "proper" with good memory management and such like that | ||
1850 | <g003y> yeah the recorder has the kind of display you could pull it off with | ||
1851 | <PsycoXul> yeah | ||
1852 | <PsycoXul> well doesn't archos' firmware for the recorder already display text? i read it did... | ||
1853 | <Bagder> hm, perhaps it does ;-) | ||
1854 | <Bagder> I haven't tried it | ||
1855 | <PsycoXul> i figured the best player text viewer would have selectable modes | ||
1856 | <PsycoXul> like a 'less' style mode that gives an 11x2 window and lets you scroll around | ||
1857 | <g003y> yeah true | ||
1858 | <PsycoXul> a book mode that goes by-word scrolling | ||
1859 | <PsycoXul> etc | ||
1860 | <PsycoXul> and a bookmark feature would also be handy | ||
1861 | <PsycoXul> but unfortunately my skills as a coder aren't such that i know how about going about such a thing... heh | ||
1862 | <g003y> well you'd need a buffer and a file handle to get yourself started :D | ||
1863 | <Bagder> I think it should scroll automaticly and you'd only control the speed and pause/play | ||
1864 | <g003y> yup the scroll api is really nice | ||
1865 | <PsycoXul> my attempts at just making a simplistic by-word scrolling viewer with no fancy features have been nasty little pieces that didn't really work heh | ||
1866 | <PsycoXul> Bagder: thats a good idea | ||
1867 | <PsycoXul> save a lot of wear on the buttons heh | ||
1868 | <Bagder> yeah | ||
1869 | <PsycoXul> and fingers | ||
1870 | <Bagder> you'd only make it run as fast as you wanna read, and then lean back ;-) | ||
1871 | <g003y> or lean in :D | ||
1872 | <PsycoXul> heh | ||
1873 | <PsycoXul> but what is memory availability like for other tasks while mp3's are playing? | ||
1874 | <g003y> well you're only looking at one line of text right? | ||
1875 | <Bagder> the mp3 buffers are never available to anyone else, so the situation is the same all the time | ||
1876 | <g003y> you shouldn't eat up much memory doing it. | ||
1877 | <PsycoXul> yeah | ||
1878 | <Bagder> it would need *some* to prevent it from reading from disk all the time | ||
1879 | <PsycoXul> but we don't wanna keep reading from disk all the time either | ||
1880 | <g003y> well you will need an optimal character buffer | ||
1881 | <Bagder> how fast can a person read? how many words a minute do an average? | ||
1882 | <g003y> but you're gonna have to take the hit on disk read anyway | ||
1883 | <Bagder> 200-300? | ||
1884 | <PsycoXul> Bagder: i dunno, i think it varies pretty widely | ||
1885 | <Bagder> I guess | ||
1886 | <Bagder> just trying to estimate buffers... :-) | ||
1887 | <PsycoXul> there's also going backwards.. sometimes you just gotta go back and re-read something, or maybe you missed a word, etc | ||
1888 | <PsycoXul> and i dunno how to handle that sorta stuff with buffers heh | ||
1889 | <PsycoXul> like nicely anyways | ||
1890 | <g003y> you would need to define what going back means | ||
1891 | <g003y> 1 line or word at a time? | ||
1892 | <PsycoXul> *shrug* i guess going backwards would probably be good going a whole line or so back per backwards press | ||
1893 | <PsycoXul> the way i see it maybe as far as the interface is in autoscrolling the - decreases speed and + increases it, and then play/pause does just that, and in pause mode -/+ might jump backwards/forwards a line.. or something | ||
1894 | <Bagder> not a bad idea | ||
1895 | <g003y> that could work | ||
1896 | <Bagder> ok, should it just output one word at a time, or try to "fill up" ? | ||
1897 | <PsycoXul> well i think it should try to fill at least 1 line... | ||
1898 | <Bagder> and 2 if there's a single word that is >11 letters? | ||
1899 | <PsycoXul> for book purposes i don't really see the need for filling both lines.. i played with that a bit and it didn't really improve readability | ||
1900 | <g003y> gotta idle | ||
1901 | <PsycoXul> yeah | ||
1902 | <PsycoXul> the 2nd line could also display something like i dunno possition or some useful thing most of the time, and a long-word wrap around like you said would probably be good | ||
1903 | <Bagder> true | ||
1904 | <PsycoXul> bookmarking could probably be just storing an offset somewhere.. like maybe a similarly named file that you could then select to go to its stored spot in the text file or something? ... | ||
1905 | <Bagder> yes | ||
1906 | <PsycoXul> but i suppose thats gotta wait for writing heh | ||
1907 | <Bagder> :-) | ||
1908 | <PsycoXul> so should the buffer be a fixed size or maybe scale with scrollspeed or something? | ||
1909 | <Bagder> fixed probably easiest and probably good enough | ||
1910 | * Bagder has an embryo now | ||
1911 | <PsycoXul> wow | ||
1912 | <Bagder> ok, it works a little now | ||
1913 | <Bagder> I added it to CVS | ||
1914 | <Bagder> it isn't actually used yet though | ||
1915 | <Bagder> night | ||
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1917 | <g003y> bagder has an embryo? interesting. | ||
1918 | <PsycoXul> hehe | ||
1919 | <g003y> I idle for a little while and you guys get him pregnant? | ||
1920 | <PsycoXul> yep | ||
1921 | <PsycoXul> well you helped i think | ||
1922 | <g003y> hahaha | ||
1923 | <g003y> I'm not paying child support. I was tricked :D | ||
1924 | <PsycoXul> hehe | ||
1925 | <PsycoXul> but hey its cool | ||
1926 | <PsycoXul> textshow.c | ||
1927 | <g003y> did you get it working? | ||
1928 | <PsycoXul> i haven't tried it | ||
1929 | <PsycoXul> just looked at it for the first time a second ago | ||
1930 | <PsycoXul> heh | ||
1931 | <PsycoXul> looks like much cleaner code than anything i've tried to do heh | ||
1932 | <g003y> heh | ||
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1958 | <Lear> Hi, gave a rockbox nightly build a test spin. Now, how do I turn it off? :) | ||
1959 | <Hadaka> plug the archos into the computer, then turn it on and then remove the file | ||
1960 | <Hadaka> optionally copy in a normal firmware from archos if you don't want to use the flashrom one | ||
1961 | <Lear> To turn it on, I need to turn it off first... That's the problem. And nothing happens when I plug in the USB cable. | ||
1962 | <Hadaka> err, unplug the charger cable | ||
1963 | <Hadaka> and then hold the off button for a second or two | ||
1964 | <Hadaka> then plug in the USB cable (not the charger cable) | ||
1965 | <Hadaka> make sure that the USB cable is plugged in to the computer as well | ||
1966 | <Hadaka> and then turn it on | ||
1967 | <Hadaka> it should go into the USB mode | ||
1968 | <Hadaka> and after that you can plug in the charger cabel | ||
1969 | <Lear> ah, so the charger cable caused the problem. not very obvious, imho. :) | ||
1970 | <Hadaka> well yes | ||
1971 | <Hadaka> the problem being that the charger cable forces the jukebox to be on - so the hard power off doesn't work | ||
1972 | <Hadaka> I found out that way before I got into rockbox - but someone should write something about that on the rockbox site | ||
1973 | <Hadaka> like "How do I uninstall?" | ||
1974 | <Lear> yeah, typical FAQ stuff. | ||
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2009 | <elinenbe2> is anyone here? | ||
2010 | <Lear> yep | ||
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2013 | <elinenbe> again, is anyone here. | ||
2014 | <Lear> elinebe: guess you don't hear me then :) | ||
2015 | <elinenbe> ah... | ||
2016 | <elinenbe> by any chance do you have the win32 recorder dimulator compiled? | ||
2017 | <Lear> nope, just tried rockbox today. :) | ||
2018 | <elinenbe> oh... ok | ||
2019 | <Lear> and I have a studio... | ||
2020 | <elinenbe> thanks anyway | ||
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2025 | <elinenbe> there seems to be some sort of bug with lcd_fillrect() at least it does not seem to work for me properly. (This is on the recorder) I get the LED light blinking. | ||
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2027 | <myshkin> c'est moi, adam, gidday | ||
2028 | * myshkin quaffs a Jolt cola | ||
2029 | <myshkin> :P | ||
2030 | <webmind_> what? | ||
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2034 | <green_> the h/d on my jukebox 6000 is messed up | ||
2035 | <green_> I got a h/d disk error while using it yesterday | ||
2036 | <green_> Neither Windows nor Linux can mount it. | ||
2037 | <green_> I thought I would just try reformating it... | ||
2038 | <green_> ..but I'm not sure how. | ||
2039 | <elinenbe> if you cant mount it, then it will be quite hard to format it! | ||
2040 | <green_> I figured it out. | ||
2041 | <green_> mkfs.msdos -F 32 /dev/sdc1 | ||
2042 | <green_> I was missing the "-F 32" part. | ||
2043 | <green_> It's playing mp3 files again... phew! | ||
2044 | <PsycoXul> you sure the batteries weren't just low? | ||
2045 | <elinenbe> PaycoXul: I am almost done with sokoban for the Rockbox (recorder only!) | ||
2046 | <PsycoXul> heh | ||
2047 | <PsycoXul> well good for you, and the recorder :p | ||
2048 | <elinenbe> you know that game? | ||
2049 | <PsycoXul> i've heard of it, i don't recall what it is though | ||
2050 | <elinenbe> finished my first beta | ||
2051 | <green_> hmmm - when I copy my files from Linux to mounted jukebox file names get truncated to 8.3. How do you avoid this/ | ||
2052 | <green_> ? | ||
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2056 | <g003y> I must keep missing Zagor this weekend | ||
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2060 | <PsycoXul> green_: are you mounting it as vfat or msdos? | ||
2061 | <elinenbe> anyone who has a recorder can now plasy sokoban on it :) | ||
2062 | <elinenbe> s/plasy/play | ||
2063 | <green_> PsycoXul: msdos | ||
2064 | <green_> should I use vfat? | ||
2065 | <green_> I just tried vfat. Much better! | ||
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2068 | <elinenbe> edx!!! | ||
2069 | <elinenbe> hey there. | ||
2070 | <elinenbe> I need some helps | ||
2071 | <elinenbe> can you send me a compiled win32 simulator? For some reason I can not get it to compile using nmake. | ||
2072 | <edx> .. | ||
2073 | <edx> why not (whats the error it gives you?) | ||
2074 | <elinenbe> my msvc is messed up. | ||
2075 | <elinenbe> it is nothing wrong with your package. | ||
2076 | <edx> it might not work at all hehe | ||
2077 | <edx> recorder or player compilation | ||
2078 | <elinenbe> I just made a sokoban clone for the rockbox, and it is kind of a pain loading it onto the AJBR every time. | ||
2079 | <elinenbe> I need both to tell you the truth | ||
2080 | <edx> ok wait a second | ||
2081 | <elinenbe> you can either email or DCC | ||
2082 | <edx> are you behind a firewall (or a server) or can i send files via irc? | ||
2083 | <elinenbe> I am behind a firewall, but it should work :() | ||
2084 | <elinenbe> :) | ||
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2087 | <edx> i am sorry.. i had to kill mirc | ||
2088 | <elinenbe> no problem. | ||
2089 | <edx> do you get the request (if not i'll mail you) | ||
2090 | <elinenbe> yeah I got the request, but I do not think the DCC is going to work | ||
2091 | <elinenbe> just email them. | ||
2092 | <elinenbe> that would be great | ||
2093 | <edx> adress? :) | ||
2094 | <elinenbe> elinenbe@umich.edu | ||
2095 | <edx> there it goes... 256 kb if that is ok.. | ||
2096 | <elinenbe> no prob. | ||
2097 | <elinenbe> that is great | ||
2098 | <elinenbe> where are you located? | ||
2099 | <edx> you did the sokoban :) | ||
2100 | <elinenbe> yeah | ||
2101 | <edx> Germany | ||
2102 | <elinenbe> it is fun | ||
2103 | <edx> has it been uploaded, yet? | ||
2104 | <elinenbe> but you know what I just made it better. I put a dealy on key presses. It works more nicely | ||
2105 | <edx> where are you located? | ||
2106 | <elinenbe> s/dealy/delay | ||
2107 | <elinenbe> Ann Arbor, MI, USA | ||
2108 | <elinenbe> and I can only have 4 levels. if I have more then 4 leves I get complie errors. | ||
2109 | <edx> i dont know sokoban... is it integratet into the source yet? | ||
2110 | <elinenbe> no, but you can get it at my www page. | ||
2111 | <edx> what's the site's address? | ||
2112 | <ironi> heh i just used PalmVNC | ||
2113 | <ironi> cool stuff =) | ||
2114 | <elinenbe> that is a cool program | ||
2115 | <elinenbe> do you have a palm phone? | ||
2116 | <ironi> but its sooo slow | ||
2117 | <ironi> no i dont | ||
2118 | <edx> no i dont.. i have used vnc tho | ||
2119 | <ironi> i have aplain old palm III | ||
2120 | <elinenbe> www.umich.edu/~elinenbe/ajbrec.ajz | ||
2121 | <elinenbe> how do I use the recorder? | ||
2122 | <edx> yup | ||
2123 | <elinenbe> the simulator I mean | ||
2124 | <elinenbe> how does it load the firmware? | ||
2125 | <edx> the firmware is compiled into it | ||
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2127 | <elinenbe> oh | ||
2128 | <ironi> but even through GPRS it's way too slow | ||
2129 | <elinenbe> hey g003y | ||
2130 | <edx> i can make a compilation with your sokoba if you have source where a main function exists | ||
2131 | <g003y> heya | ||
2132 | <edx> sokoban... | ||
2133 | <edx> hi | ||
2134 | <g003y> see you got your clone working. | ||
2135 | <g003y> unfortunately I don't have a recorder :( | ||
2136 | <elinenbe> dont worry about it I will get it into the CVS | ||
2137 | <elinenbe> do you have CVS access? | ||
2138 | <g003y> only anonymous still | ||
2139 | <g003y> I contacted Zagor, but haven't heard back | ||
2140 | <edx> hmm i'll compile sokoban for the simulator.. :) | ||
2141 | <ironi> what's up with this clone? | ||
2142 | <g003y> it works :D | ||
2143 | <elinenbe> I just made a sokoban clone for the recorder. | ||
2144 | <g003y> I think... | ||
2145 | <edx> now i know what sokoban is.. damn that rocks | ||
2146 | <edx> i compiled a win32 sim with it | ||
2147 | <edx> interested anyone? :) | ||
2148 | <edx> i'll put it on my webserver and post the address in the mailing list lol | ||
2149 | <elinenbe> well, the sokoban is only 4 levels. I could not make it more. | ||
2150 | <elinenbe> something about confliction addresses. | ||
2151 | <edx> hmm | ||
2152 | <edx> i like it very much | ||
2153 | <edx> it's a cool game! :) great design | ||
2154 | <edx> http://codeforce.d2g.com/rockbox/sokoban(win32sim).exe | ||
2155 | <edx> unforutnalely it doesnt seem to work at the moment | ||
2156 | <edx> (the address i mean) | ||
2157 | <edx> i have to leave now... good night | ||
2158 | <g003y> see ya | ||
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2160 | <ironi> well | ||
2161 | <ironi> hm | ||
2162 | <ironi> id love to make an arkanoid game for the player | ||
2163 | <g003y> oh yeah | ||
2164 | <ironi> but is i tpossible to control the dots? | ||
2165 | <g003y> the player is not as flexible as the record that way | ||
2166 | <ironi> or is it just possible to use symbols int he different squares | ||
2167 | <elinenbe> you could possibly do something like arkanoid on the player | ||
2168 | <elinenbe> it would be much harder though | ||
2169 | <g003y> yup | ||
2170 | <ironi> so the player display only accepts symbols? | ||
2171 | <ironi> i.e. i cant control every one of the ....lets say 9 dots in every char | ||
2172 | <ironi> separately | ||
2173 | <g003y> only accepts a set of valid characters as defined in the characters table | ||
2174 | <g003y> I believe | ||
2175 | <g003y> it's not bitmap based like the recorder | ||
2176 | <g003y> hence why all these cool little games are happening for the recorder | ||
2177 | <elinenbe> well, the characters are 7x9 or something likee that -- rihgt? | ||
2178 | <g003y> but the player mod can play mp3s at least :D | ||
2179 | <g003y> soemthing like that... I'd have to look at the code | ||
2180 | <elinenbe> that is true, but soon so will the recorder. | ||
2181 | <g003y> yeah anyword on that ? | ||
2182 | <elinenbe> nothing definitly | ||
2183 | <g003y> too bad archos didn't use the same chipsets. it would probably have it already then | ||
2184 | <Hadaka> I think I might be making a demo on a recorder for a party that's sometime next year | ||
2185 | <elinenbe> go for it. That would be great. | ||
2186 | <elinenbe> I think I am going to do a vector engine. | ||
2187 | <g003y> asteroids ! | ||
2188 | <g003y> :D | ||
2189 | <elinenbe> then you would have to do sin tables and stuff like that. | ||
2190 | <elinenbe> maybe I won't do that... | ||
2191 | <g003y> heheheheheehe | ||
2192 | <g003y> starts to sound more like work than fun eh? | ||
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2198 | <g003y> netsplit | ||
2199 | <g003y> love those. they are like virtual roller coaster rides :D | ||
2200 | <ironi> hehe | ||
2201 | <ironi> well i dont get very excited though :-P | ||
2202 | <g003y> heheh | ||
2203 | <g003y> w00t... my stuff almost works :D | ||
2204 | <g003y> just a bit of tweaking on the string parsing and menu exit & done | ||
2205 | <ironi> what is it that you are doing? | ||
2206 | <g003y> making a user selectable mp3 play display | ||
2207 | <g003y> the mod right now only does id3 | ||
2208 | <g003y> I'm adding a couple more options to this | ||
2209 | <g003y> one is scroll the filename ala classic firmware | ||
2210 | <g003y> and two is more of a path parsing to pull out relevant information | ||
2211 | <g003y> as well as maintain the option of id3 tag display | ||
2212 | <ironi> is that just for recorder? | ||
2213 | <g003y> no player | ||
2214 | <g003y> I only have a player right now | ||
2215 | <ironi> great | ||
2216 | <ironi> i have player | ||
2217 | <g003y> I may leave the recorder implementation up to someone else :D | ||
2218 | <ironi> so can you pleas emake the recation on click when scrolling a bit delayed | ||
2219 | <g003y> plus I will have to integrate this with playlist functionality once it's done | ||
2220 | <ironi> as it is now its way too fast | ||
2221 | <ironi> reaction | ||
2222 | <ironi> i'd love to try what you have done | ||
2223 | <ironi> to give you feedback | ||
2224 | <g003y> I'm sure it could be tweaked, but I don't have ssh access to the tree did | ||
2225 | <g003y> yeah I'll post it | ||
2226 | <g003y> I just have to get the menu exit right. | ||
2227 | <ironi> i haven't set up a compile environment, really | ||
2228 | <ironi> :P | ||
2229 | <ironi> maybe i should | ||
2230 | <g003y> are you on win32? | ||
2231 | <ironi> yup | ||
2232 | <g003y> then it's as easy as Zagor's directions | ||
2233 | <g003y> so long as you install cygwin | ||
2234 | <ironi> i do have a linux box, but it's just 486 dx4/100 | ||
2235 | <ironi> maybe too slow | ||
2236 | <g003y> hahaha... wow been awhile since I've seen one of those | ||
2237 | <ironi> I was considering vmware | ||
2238 | <g003y> depends on how fast you want your mod file :D | ||
2239 | <g003y> anyway I'm compiling on win32/cygwin myself | ||
2240 | <ironi> i have it installed already | ||
2241 | <ironi> yeah? well isnt it so much more convenient to do it in linux? | ||
2242 | <g003y> it doesn't matter tome | ||
2243 | <g003y> cygwin gives ya a bash shell | ||
2244 | <g003y> from there it all feels the same | ||
2245 | <g003y> works the same as well | ||
2246 | <ironi> oh really | ||
2247 | <g003y> you should have the same tools at your disposal as a linux install | ||
2248 | <ironi> lemme see | ||
2249 | <g003y> yup | ||
2250 | <ironi> The new v0202 version now uses MinGW instead of Cygwin. | ||
2251 | <ironi> should i get the new one then? | ||
2252 | <g003y> huh? | ||
2253 | <g003y> v0202 of what? | ||
2254 | <ironi> gnush toolchain | ||
2255 | <g003y> I don't use gnush toolchain | ||
2256 | <ironi> but what then | ||
2257 | <g003y> that is only another way to do it, but it was more difficult to setup IMO | ||
2258 | <ironi> that is the instructions on the rockbox page | ||
2259 | <ironi> ok tlel me what to do | ||
2260 | <ironi> tell | ||
2261 | <g003y> http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/cross-gcc.html | ||
2262 | <g003y> install cygwin | ||
2263 | <g003y> then do that from the shell | ||
2264 | <ironi> ok brb | ||
2265 | <g003y> I belive edx is using the gnush | ||
2266 | <g003y> toolkit | ||
2267 | <g003y> elinenbe did it my way with success as well | ||
2268 | <g003y> well really Zagor's way :D | ||
2269 | <ironi> cygwin installer is a mess | ||
2270 | <g003y> it's not that bad. | ||
2271 | <g003y> you just have to select things ala the package menu | ||
2272 | <ironi> well | ||
2273 | <ironi> i dont knwo what i need | ||
2274 | <ironi> now it froze | ||
2275 | <g003y> ouch | ||
2276 | <ironi> i dont understand a thing from the packae install | ||
2277 | <ironi> prev curr exp | ||
2278 | <ironi> previous current expected? | ||
2279 | <ironi> but what? | ||
2280 | <g003y> I go with current myself | ||
2281 | <g003y> exp probably is experimental | ||
2282 | <ironi> can i actually install X here? | ||
2283 | <ironi> and run it under iwndows | ||
2284 | <g003y> IDK... I don't do X | ||
2285 | <g003y> I doubt it though | ||
2286 | <ironi> ok | ||
2287 | <ironi> well it wa sin the options | ||
2288 | <ironi> it seems like one can install a complete linux system to run under windows | ||
2289 | <g003y> well maybe you can, but I've never tried it nor have I known anyone to do it that wayy | ||
2290 | <ironi> ok | ||
2291 | <ironi> well ill skip it for now | ||
2292 | <g003y> good choice :D | ||
2293 | <ironi> oh i need ot get binutils and stuff | ||
2294 | <g003y> you do all that after you install cgywin to get it updated | ||
2295 | <g003y> you'll need to recompile gcc per his directions on the website. | ||
2296 | <g003y> which means you will need gcc & make and all that installed | ||
2297 | <g003y> you can get the tarballs for the stuff from Gnu. | ||
2298 | <ironi> ok cygwin instaslled | ||
2299 | <ironi> so now what | ||
2300 | <ironi> update it? | ||
2301 | <g003y> follow the directions on the url I posted | ||
2302 | <ironi> wooo | ||
2303 | <ironi> this is soo cool | ||
2304 | <g003y> yeah *nix shell on win32 :). spooky even. | ||
2305 | <ironi> well it seems terribly slow though | ||
2306 | <g003y> what is terribly slow? | ||
2307 | <ironi> or this is maybe a very old version of wget | ||
2308 | <g003y> no probs here | ||
2309 | <g003y> though I just went to the gnu site, and fetched it with IE. Saved it to the proper directory and extracted it all from the cygwin shell | ||
2310 | <ironi> oh really | ||
2311 | <g003y> yeha | ||
2312 | <ironi> yeah i guess that can be done hehe | ||
2313 | <g003y> you got unixy power and ease of IE available to you :D | ||
2314 | <ironi> then i can use d/l accelerator | ||
2315 | <ironi> way faster | ||
2316 | <g003y> sure whatever floats your boat | ||
2317 | <g003y> don't attempt to extract the tarballs with winzip though. It's lame about it all | ||
2318 | <g003y> do it the way the website shows, but from the cygwin shell so you get all the tools you need. | ||
2319 | <ironi> i see | ||
2320 | <ironi> well im familiar with linux | ||
2321 | <g003y> alright then you should be ok | ||
2322 | <ironi> i dont like the look of this bash shell | ||
2323 | <ironi> i want directory | ||
2324 | <g003y> well then set it up the way you want it :D | ||
2325 | <ironi> heh actually never done that | ||
2326 | <ironi> well llook into it later | ||
2327 | <ironi> gdb i s jsut for remote debugging right? | ||
2328 | <g003y> yeah | ||
2329 | <g003y> I didn't set that up | ||
2330 | <ironi> k | ||
2331 | <g003y> I do it the painful way | ||
2332 | <ironi> compile an dcopy to the archos? | ||
2333 | <ironi> and | ||
2334 | <g003y> yup :D | ||
2335 | <g003y> like the old cobol days | ||
2336 | <ironi> but is remote debugging possible in window stoo? | ||
2337 | <g003y> IDK | ||
2338 | <g003y> probably | ||
2339 | <ironi> cc not found | ||
2340 | <g003y> change CC=cc to CC=gcc in the makefile | ||
2341 | <ironi> k | ||
2342 | <ironi> ah | ||
2343 | <ironi> text editor | ||
2344 | <ironi> none | ||
2345 | <g003y> vi | ||
2346 | <g003y> not there? | ||
2347 | <ironi> no :/ | ||
2348 | <g003y> stupid cygwin | ||
2349 | <g003y> you should be able to go back and install that package | ||
2350 | <ironi> ill just use my win text editor | ||
2351 | <g003y> that shoudl workd | ||
2352 | <ironi> yup | ||
2353 | <ironi> so i change it to gcc and try configure again | ||
2354 | <g003y> yeah | ||
2355 | <ironi> well i didnt have gcc either | ||
2356 | <g003y> oh well install it :D | ||
2357 | <g003y> you need a current rev to get yourself started | ||
2358 | <ironi> i tell you, cygwin installer suxx | ||
2359 | <g003y> I don't like the package selection either | ||
2360 | <g003y> but once it's installed it works | ||
2361 | <ironi> well yes | ||
2362 | <ironi> it owuld be coolt with an apt-like system heh | ||
2363 | <ironi> cyg-get gcc | ||
2364 | <ironi> =) | ||
2365 | <g003y> yes | ||
2366 | <g003y> that would be nice | ||
2367 | <ironi> wouldnt be too har dot accomplish sinc eit already is installing by downloading packages | ||
2368 | <ironi> prolly possible to fix in a perl script | ||
2369 | <g003y> does it have one once you install the main portion of cygwin? | ||
2370 | <g003y> I've never seen one, but it might exist :D | ||
2371 | <ironi> im trying aain | ||
2372 | <ironi> again | ||
2373 | <g003y> and again :D | ||
2374 | <ironi> it seems to be able to configure now | ||
2375 | <ironi> but its acting like a p133 or something | ||
2376 | <g003y> eww | ||
2377 | <ironi> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/screenshots/cygwin-xfree86-wmaker.png | ||
2378 | <ironi> i have to try X under cygwin | ||
2379 | <ironi> prolly slow | ||
2380 | <g003y> probably | ||
2381 | <g003y> but it is kind of funny | ||
2382 | <ironi> eyeah | ||
2383 | <ironi> well its kinda stupid when one looks at vmware | ||
2384 | <ironi> i wish there was a open source vmware clone | ||
2385 | <ironi> u still there g003y | ||
2386 | <ironi> damn | ||
2387 | <ironi> my cygwin dir is 300 mb now | ||
2388 | <ironi> that sucls | ||
2389 | <adi|home> anyone know off hand who commited bounce.[ch]? | ||
2390 | <adi|home> nm | ||
2391 | <ironi> http://www.spiegel.de/img/0%2c1020%2c190869%2c00.jpg | ||
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2396 | <ivana-87-> | PS | -| PS | | ||
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2398 | <g003y> was that random or just a bot? | ||
2399 | <g003y> :D | ||
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2404 | --- dwihno|weekender is now known as dwihno | ||
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2407 | <dwihno> Yay, sokoban rules :D | ||
2408 | --> myshkin (~adam@c-24-118-162-179.mn.client2.attbi.com) has joined #rockbox | ||
2409 | <myshkin> lo | ||
2410 | * myshkin notes twin is cool :p | ||
2411 | <myshkin> a good escape from lame X11 | ||
2412 | <dwihno> is it good? :) | ||
2413 | <dwihno> I never tried it, I've always sticked to screen | ||
2414 | <myshkin> heh | ||
2415 | <myshkin> it's funky | ||
2416 | <myshkin> I like it... | ||
2417 | <myshkin> I still use screen ;p | ||
2418 | <dwihno> I'll try to compile it and test it out | ||
2419 | <myshkin> heh | ||
2420 | <myshkin> using debian? | ||
2421 | <myshkin> if so, there is a decent package for it. | ||
2422 | <myshkin> I compiled my own, out of sheer boredom | ||
2423 | * myshkin quaffs a jolt cola | ||
2424 | <myshkin> oh yeah, this is me, adam, or kitsune, or whatever | ||
2425 | <myshkin> I've settled on this name, for now ;) | ||
2426 | <dwihno> mkay | ||
2427 | <myshkin> twsetroot == funny, I've got my ascii art motd as a 'background' | ||
2428 | <dwihno> yay | ||
2429 | --> adi|dads (adi_dads@pool-138-89-3-104.mad.east.verizon.net) has joined #rockbox | ||
2430 | <-- myshkin has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | ||
2431 | <adi|dads> anyone around or everyone sleeping? | ||
2432 | <-- adi|dads has quit (Client Quit) | ||
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2435 | --> Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
2436 | <Bagder> moo | ||
2437 | <dwihno> YIKES! | ||
2438 | * dwihno jumps high | ||
2439 | * dwihno ends up sitting in a tree | ||
2440 | <Bagder> :-) | ||
2441 | <dwihno> Did you enjoy the weekend? | ||
2442 | <Bagder> I certainly did | ||
2443 | <Bagder> you? | ||
2444 | <dwihno> Hmm. I spent the saturday working on a project, and yesterday I did my laundry and cleaned my appartment ;) | ||
2445 | <dwihno> I guess there are funnier things to do, but at least, it's done. | ||
2446 | <dwihno> "I brännvin ska du bada, i Bacchi lada" | ||
2447 | <Bagder> the build is.... *red* | ||
2448 | <dwihno> :O | ||
2449 | <dwihno> OH MY GOOOOD! :( | ||
2450 | <dwihno> Call in the TASK FORCE! | ||
2451 | * Bagder dials 911 | ||
2452 | * dwihno dials 1-800-BAGDER | ||
2453 | <dwihno> :D | ||
2454 | * dwihno dials 1-800-ZAGOR | ||
2455 | * dwihno dials 1-800-LINUS | ||
2456 | <dwihno> Hmm, "numret du ringer har flyttat, men saknar referens" :) | ||
2457 | --> Linus (~linus@labb.contactor.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
2458 | <dwihno> Good morning Linus, welcome back to the wonderful world of ROCKBOX! :D | ||
2459 | <Linus> Thank you! :-) | ||
2460 | <Bagder> hey Linus | ||
2461 | <Bagder> Linus: I don't really undertand the current compile-status link breakage, can you have a look at it? | ||
2462 | <elinenbe> hello there | ||
2463 | <Bagder> morning elinenbe | ||
2464 | <Linus> It means that the pad section overlaps the rodata section | ||
2465 | <Linus> the pad section is located at an absolute address | ||
2466 | <Bagder> but what is the pad section for? | ||
2467 | <Linus> remove it | ||
2468 | <elinenbe> would it be possible to get CVS access? | ||
2469 | <Linus> the pad section is for ....padding... | ||
2470 | <Linus> you know the minimum size thing | ||
2471 | <Bagder> padding what? | ||
2472 | <Bagder> aaah | ||
2473 | <Linus> the archos firmware doesn't load very small .mod files | ||
2474 | <elinenbe> 2:30 am -- US vs. Mexico! I am holding out here. | ||
2475 | <Linus> DERBY! | ||
2476 | <elinenbe> hey, what is up with fillrect() -- I tried to use this on the recorder, and it just gave me a blinking led light | ||
2477 | <Linus> Oh, we accidentally misspelled the lcd_blink() function. | ||
2478 | <Linus> Sorry, couldn't resist... :-) | ||
2479 | * dwihno loves the sokoban gokomuku game! :D | ||
2480 | <Bagder> elinenbe: mail your sf account user name to Björn to get cvs access | ||
2481 | <Linus> elinenbe: no text on screen? | ||
2482 | <elinenbe> Badger: will do. | ||
2483 | <elinenbe> Linus: what do you mean no text on screen? | ||
2484 | <elinenbe> I was just making that little sokoban game, and I attempted to use fill_rect() (something like that) and it never worked properly. | ||
2485 | <Bagder> elinenbe: did you try to fill a big rectangle? | ||
2486 | <elinenbe> not at all.. | ||
2487 | <Linus> elinenbe: I mean "no error message?" | ||
2488 | <elinenbe> maybe 4x4 pixels | ||
2489 | <Bagder> oh | ||
2490 | <elinenbe> oh. yeah there was NO error message | ||
2491 | <Bagder> btw, I think I've broken lcd_invertrect() | ||
2492 | <Bagder> whatever that function is supposed to be good for | ||
2493 | <elinenbe> that worked in my game. I used it for the winning screen | ||
2494 | <elinenbe> it gives a nice flash effect | ||
2495 | <Bagder> well, were you using the cvs sources? | ||
2496 | <elinenbe> no -- yesterdays tarball | ||
2497 | <Bagder> ok | ||
2498 | <Bagder> I modified the behavior on saturday | ||
2499 | <elinenbe> Badger: what happened to Sweden in the Cup? | ||
2500 | <Bagder> lost against Senegal | ||
2501 | <Bagder> yesterday | ||
2502 | <dwihno> yeah :( | ||
2503 | <dwihno> Such a sad moment! | ||
2504 | <Linus> Bagder: only the recorder has reached the minimum size | ||
2505 | <Bagder> oh | ||
2506 | <Bagder> eh | ||
2507 | <dwihno> Andersson did a really cool circus number trying to score | ||
2508 | <Bagder> can we make it conditional somehow? | ||
2509 | <Linus> I don't think so, we may need two lds files | ||
2510 | <Bagder> or can we have multiple -T options perhaps? | ||
2511 | <Linus> multiple? | ||
2512 | <Bagder> I hate having two files almost identical | ||
2513 | <Bagder> would be better if the pad thing could be included with a second -T optin | ||
2514 | <elinenbe> When I tried to compile more levels into the sokoban game, it gave me an error -- is there a maximum size for variables or something like that? | ||
2515 | <Bagder> elinenbe: we're fixing that just noww | ||
2516 | <elinenbe> oh great. that is nice. | ||
2517 | <Linus> elinenbe: quick fix: cvs update firmware/app.lds | ||
2518 | <Bagder> I made a separate lds file now | ||
2519 | <Bagder> elinenbe: you did notice your added files make the build go yellow? ;-) | ||
2520 | <elinenbe> yeah -- there was a sprintf | ||
2521 | <elinenbe> or something like that. I will fix it. | ||
2522 | <Bagder> have Björn add you to the dev team first, then you can do it yourself with cvs | ||
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2524 | <Bagder> hey green | ||
2525 | * Bagder runs off to fill up more coffee | ||
2526 | <elinenbe> yeah I will do that. | ||
2527 | --> l_9_l (~jarod@217.17.228.127) has joined #rockbox | ||
2528 | --> Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
2529 | <Bagder> hey ho Z | ||
2530 | <Zagor> hey | ||
2531 | --- Received a CTCP VERSION from l_9_l (to #rockbox) | ||
2532 | <-- l_9_l (~jarod@217.17.228.127) has left #rockbox | ||
2533 | * Bagder hms | ||
2534 | <Bagder> he comes here CTCP-versioning us all and then leaves... | ||
2535 | <Zagor> looking for vulns, no doubt | ||
2536 | <Bagder> indeed | ||
2537 | <dwihno> damn those h4x0rs | ||
2538 | <Zagor> oooh, sokoban :) | ||
2539 | * Zagor is reading his mail | ||
2540 | <dwihno> Zagor: I'm WAAAAY ahead of you! :D | ||
2541 | <Bagder> you absent person ;-) | ||
2542 | <Zagor> yeah, i was /away this weekend | ||
2543 | <Bagder> Zagor: you need to add elinenbe to the sf project so that he can fix the yellow build ;-) | ||
2544 | <Zagor> righty, what's his sf username? | ||
2545 | <Bagder> elinenbe: booo! here? | ||
2546 | <Zagor> two klez mails for the list blocked already | ||
2547 | <Bagder> yeah, but one true spam got through... :-/ | ||
2548 | <Zagor> yup | ||
2549 | <Bagder> cought in my filter though ;-) | ||
2550 | <Bagder> caught | ||
2551 | <Bagder> X-Spam-Because: subject matched regex "[A-Z0-9]+.*[A-Z]{3,}.*[A-Z]{5,}.*[A-Z]{3,}" | ||
2552 | <Bagder> !! | ||
2553 | <dwihno> the range {3,} means unlimited? | ||
2554 | <Bagder> 3 to to unlimited, yes | ||
2555 | <dwihno> mkay | ||
2556 | * dwihno just learned something new | ||
2557 | * dwihno fixes some code rightaway ;D | ||
2558 | <Bagder> haha | ||
2559 | <dwihno> :) | ||
2560 | <Bagder> Zagor: we should evaluate SpamAssasin for filtering the list | ||
2561 | <Zagor> have you looked at it? | ||
2562 | <Bagder> no, but I've read a bunch of good things about it | ||
2563 | <Bagder> seems to be about the same concept like my blockspam | ||
2564 | <Bagder> but better implemented | ||
2565 | <Zagor> ok | ||
2566 | <dwihno> as long as it has 50+ command line options, it ruulez ;) | ||
2567 | <dwihno> software with less = bad :) | ||
2568 | <Bagder> curl --help | grep - -- | wc -l | ||
2569 | <Bagder> 79 | ||
2570 | <Bagder> :-) | ||
2571 | <dwihno> :D | ||
2572 | <Zagor> have any of you guys had a problem starting the archos firmware once you've ran rockbox? | ||
2573 | <Bagder> nope | ||
2574 | <Zagor> some people in the yahoo list indicates problems of that kind | ||
2575 | <elinenbe> I am hgere | ||
2576 | <elinenbe> I am here | ||
2577 | <elinenbe> I just watched USA beat Mexico 2-0!!!! | ||
2578 | <Bagder> elinenbe: tell Zagor your sf account name | ||
2579 | <Zagor> hey, elinenbe. what's your sf name? | ||
2580 | <elinenbe> I am most positive it is elinenbe | ||
2581 | <Zagor> ok | ||
2582 | <Linus> I have had the restart problem in my recorder | ||
2583 | <Linus> it turns out that the extension of the firmware has a meaning | ||
2584 | <Bagder> how did you solve it? | ||
2585 | <Linus> The only firmware file on my recorder was ajbrec.ejz | ||
2586 | <Zagor> elinenbe: you're added | ||
2587 | <elinenbe> thanks. what is the meaning of the firmware extension? | ||
2588 | <Linus> i copied it to ajbrec_orig.ejz and copied the new ajbrec.ajz to the HD | ||
2589 | <Linus> worked OK | ||
2590 | <Bagder> yes, that .ejz file is mysterious | ||
2591 | <Linus> then i wanted to go back to the original | ||
2592 | <Linus> so i removed the ajbrec.ajz and copied the ajbrec_orig.ejz to ajbrec.ejz | ||
2593 | <Linus> no go. it booted from the ROM | ||
2594 | <Linus> i renamed ajbrec.ejz to ajbrec.ajz. no go | ||
2595 | <Linus> i had to download a new ajbrec.ajz from archos web site | ||
2596 | <Linus> really strange | ||
2597 | <Bagder> no, .ejz and .ajz are not the same kinds of files | ||
2598 | <Bagder> they look very different | ||
2599 | <Zagor> interesting | ||
2600 | <Zagor> i didn't know that | ||
2601 | <Linus> i wonder what the difference is | ||
2602 | <Zagor> do any of you have an .ejz file we can look at? | ||
2603 | <Bagder> I do | ||
2604 | <Linus> maybe it is descrambled? | ||
2605 | <Bagder> my thoughts too | ||
2606 | <Bagder> but there's no strings at all visisble for example | ||
2607 | <elinenbe> Linus: what is the status of audio on the recorder? | ||
2608 | <Zagor> but then why doesn't it work when you replace it? | ||
2609 | <Bagder> they are also differently sized | ||
2610 | <Bagder> -rwxr-xr-x 1 daniel daniel 111130 Apr 8 23:48 AJBREC.ajz | ||
2611 | <Bagder> -rwxr-xr-x 1 daniel daniel 136938 Apr 8 23:48 ajbrec.ejz | ||
2612 | <Zagor> it sure looks unscrambled | ||
2613 | <Linus> elinenbe: patience, Grasshopper... | ||
2614 | <dwihno> No status at all ? :-) | ||
2615 | <Zagor> at least the vector table appears intact | ||
2616 | * dwihno is tiny grasshopper too | ||
2617 | <Linus> I have I2C contact with the chip. | ||
2618 | <elinenbe> Grasshopper? | ||
2619 | <Zagor> nah, the vector table is not right | ||
2620 | <Linus> elinenbe: A line from a kung-fu TV series. I have forgotten its' name. | ||
2621 | <Bagder> Zagor: did you notice the "ARCH" text in the beginning? | ||
2622 | <dwihno> it's always grasshoppers in the kung-fu movies | ||
2623 | <Zagor> yes | ||
2624 | <dwihno> Zagor is grasshopper too | ||
2625 | <elinenbe> brb | ||
2626 | <-- elinenbe has quit ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") | ||
2627 | --> ironi (ironi@as2-5-7.j.bonet.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
2628 | <Bagder> need... more... coffee | ||
2629 | <Linus> Actually, the name of the TV series _is_ "Kung Fu". | ||
2630 | <Linus> The apprentice is called Caine, and his master is called Master Kan or something | ||
2631 | <Linus> A real classic | ||
2632 | --> elinenbe (trilluser@bgp01080511bgs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) has joined #rockbox | ||
2633 | --- elinenbe is now known as elinenbe|sleepin | ||
2634 | <Zagor> brb | ||
2635 | <-- Zagor has quit ("Client Exiting") | ||
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2637 | <ironi> Zagor | ||
2638 | <Zagor> mm? | ||
2639 | <ironi> hi! =) | ||
2640 | <Zagor> ah :) | ||
2641 | <Bagder> Zagor: checked that FAT bug report yet? | ||
2642 | <Zagor> nope, will do | ||
2643 | <Zagor> just got a core when shuffling the playlist... | ||
2644 | <Bagder> oh | ||
2645 | <Zagor> deep in X | ||
2646 | <Bagder> hua | ||
2647 | --- Linus is now known as Linus|lunch | ||
2648 | <Zagor> the ATA bug report is wrong | ||
2649 | <Bagder> oh | ||
2650 | <Zagor> we do use 'startsector', only not where he thought it would be | ||
2651 | <Zagor> he had to make the change because he disabled caching | ||
2652 | <Bagder> well, fine then ;-) | ||
2653 | <ironi> i built the compiling ewnvironment using cygwin | ||
2654 | <ironi> it worked fine | ||
2655 | <Bagder> neato | ||
2656 | <Bagder> no include warnings? | ||
2657 | <Bagder> did you build with newlib or not? | ||
2658 | <ironi> well m y point was that cygwin just messed up and i deleted it | ||
2659 | <ironi> cause it sucks. | ||
2660 | <ironi> but it's acool idea. | ||
2661 | <ironi> now im going for vmware instead. | ||
2662 | <ironi> =) | ||
2663 | <Bagder> heh | ||
2664 | <ironi> real linux :-P | ||
2665 | <ironi> its kinda cool that you can assign a iso image as the cdrom for the virtual machine | ||
2666 | <Bagder> It Works Better (tm) | ||
2667 | <ironi> vmware in general impresses me a lot. | ||
2668 | <Bagder> its cool enough | ||
2669 | <ironi> something else taht is cool is PalmVNC | ||
2670 | <ironi> with the scaling-enabled VNC server | ||
2671 | <ironi> you can even get the desktop scaled to fit on the pal m screen, heh | ||
2672 | <ironi> people come up with the neatest things | ||
2673 | <Bagder> :-) | ||
2674 | <Zagor> hmm, should FAT shortnames be all uppercase or all lowercase? | ||
2675 | <Bagder> no idea | ||
2676 | <Bagder> I like lowercase better of course | ||
2677 | <Zagor> I just created "allfiles.m3u" and it became all uppercase and thus not recognized as a playlist :) | ||
2678 | <Bagder> hehe | ||
2679 | <Bagder> not case insensitive yet, huh? ;-) | ||
2680 | <Zagor> btw, I think we should jump through some hoops to support winamp-generated playlists. i.e. handle backslash, no preceding slash and also disk names. | ||
2681 | <Bagder> well | ||
2682 | <Bagder> the paths will be wrong anyway, won't they? | ||
2683 | <Zagor> why? | ||
2684 | <Bagder> because winamp will use the full path to the tracks | ||
2685 | <Bagder> and we won't use the same paths | ||
2686 | <Bagder> or maybe we will | ||
2687 | <Bagder> if we cut off the disk name | ||
2688 | <Zagor> yeah, but the archos is a new disk (F: for example) so the path will be ok | ||
2689 | <Zagor> exactly | ||
2690 | <Bagder> good point | ||
2691 | <Bagder> so yes, we should convert slashes and ignore disk names | ||
2692 | <Bagder> I made it ignore #-lines the other day | ||
2693 | <Zagor> good | ||
2694 | <Zagor> for some reason, winamp creates one # line for every file when creating a new list. there's no info on the line, just the filename... | ||
2695 | <Bagder> it supposedly can store time info etc there | ||
2696 | <Bagder> song lengths | ||
2697 | <Zagor> i'll make them lowercase | ||
2698 | <Zagor> umm, or maybe not. lowercasing CP437 is not so fun... | ||
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2700 | --- calpefrosch|work is now known as calpefrosch | ||
2701 | <calpefrosch> hi | ||
2702 | <Bagder> hi calpefrosch | ||
2703 | <Zagor> heyyy, froggie! :) | ||
2704 | <calpefrosch> the list of users has grown | ||
2705 | <calpefrosch> since I went in holidays | ||
2706 | <-- ironi has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | ||
2707 | --- Linus|lunch is now known as Linus | ||
2708 | <Zagor> Bagder: what is the idea with this code: | ||
2709 | <Zagor> if('/' == now_playing[1]) | ||
2710 | <Zagor> return &now_playing[1]; | ||
2711 | <Zagor> when will the second character be a slash? | ||
2712 | <Bagder> to prevent two initial slashes | ||
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2714 | <Bagder> it usually is | ||
2715 | <Zagor> usually? | ||
2716 | <Bagder> if the file name was an absolute path | ||
2717 | <Bagder> it loads the file name from position 1 | ||
2718 | <Bagder> s/from/at | ||
2719 | <Zagor> ah, yes. missed that. | ||
2720 | <Bagder> we might not want that safety precautions | ||
2721 | <Zagor> why not? | ||
2722 | <Bagder> its just a matter of where to draw the line | ||
2723 | <Bagder> adding a preceeding slash will hardly make us find the right file anyway | ||
2724 | <Bagder> if the playlist uses relative paths | ||
2725 | <Zagor> in my test case it would work, so I'd say it has a value | ||
2726 | <Bagder> so leave it | ||
2727 | <Bagder> I mean, leave it in there | ||
2728 | <Zagor> yes | ||
2729 | <Zagor> this should make most winamp playlists work | ||
2730 | <Linus> I just tried the PLAY key in the recorder. It doesn't work. Why? | ||
2731 | <Zagor> because we now only check for the RIGHT key. it was part of the #ifdef cleanup. | ||
2732 | <Zagor> yes, it's wrong :( | ||
2733 | <Zagor> :) | ||
2734 | <Zagor> uh, my recorder menu key stopped working??? | ||
2735 | <Zagor> sim | ||
2736 | <Zagor> bah, my silly X doesn't send the events! | ||
2737 | <ironi> heh | ||
2738 | <-- Zagor has quit ("Client Exiting") | ||
2739 | --> Zagor (~bjst@mimas.contactor.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
2740 | <-- Zagor has quit (Client Quit) | ||
2741 | --> Zagor (~bjst@mimas.contactor.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
2742 | <Bagder> yoyo? | ||
2743 | <Bagder> :-) | ||
2744 | <Linus> Zagor: it sucks to have a modem, right? :-) | ||
2745 | <Zagor> yeah, trying to get a new kernel on this damn redhat box but the initrd junk barfs on me | ||
2746 | <Zagor> is there a point to sokoban.c having #ifdef HAVE_LCD_BITMAP around the whole code? | ||
2747 | <Zagor> i'm removing it | ||
2748 | <Bagder> no point | ||
2749 | * Zagor is listening to whole-disk random playback. And smiles. | ||
2750 | <Bagder> I think g003y said he couldn't make playlist work this weekend | ||
2751 | <Bagder> was that the play button not doing right? | ||
2752 | <Zagor> yeah, some ppl on yahoo said that too. i think it was probably us being picky about playlist formwat | ||
2753 | <Zagor> that's fixed now | ||
2754 | <Bagder> so you tried making a playlist with winamp and play it yet? | ||
2755 | <Zagor> yep, that's what I'm playing now | ||
2756 | <Bagder> ok | ||
2757 | <Bagder> coolio | ||
2758 | <Bagder> wow, going towards a green build again | ||
2759 | <Zagor> and having shuffle as an option makes a lot more sense, I think | ||
2760 | <dwihno> yay | ||
2761 | <Bagder> Zagor: it does | ||
2762 | <Bagder> however, now you can't re-shuffle, can you? | ||
2763 | --> alkorr (alkorr@srs08m-5-51.n.club-internet.fr) has joined #rockbox | ||
2764 | <alkorr> hi ! | ||
2765 | <Zagor> just start the list again | ||
2766 | <Bagder> Zagor: so it re-seeds on playlist load? | ||
2767 | <Bagder> hi alan | ||
2768 | <alkorr> i'm learning now that we don' need newlib any longer to compile rockbox :) | ||
2769 | <Zagor> Bagder: yes, using current_tick | ||
2770 | <Bagder> ok | ||
2771 | <Bagder> we should remake the makefiles to use the include files I added | ||
2772 | <Zagor> Linus: can I get my player-new some day, for testing? | ||
2773 | <Zagor> hmm, what happens if a playlist file isn't found? | ||
2774 | <Zagor> it stops | ||
2775 | <Bagder> it won't be loaded ;-P | ||
2776 | <alkorr> in fact, we should have keep includes but just change add our own headers for non-simulator part | ||
2777 | <alkorr> but never mind | ||
2778 | <alkorr> :) | ||
2779 | <Bagder> I'll rebuild my gcc without newlib | ||
2780 | <alkorr> what ? "permission denied" ??? | ||
2781 | <Bagder> ? | ||
2782 | <Zagor> hehe, the scroll is quite slow while loading mp3 data :) | ||
2783 | <alkorr> i cannot access cvs !? | ||
2784 | <Linus> Zagor: no way. I sold it. :-) | ||
2785 | <alkorr> cvs -z9 update -P (in directory E:\rockbox\apps\) | ||
2786 | <alkorr> Permission denied, please try again. | ||
2787 | <alkorr> Permission denied, please try again. | ||
2788 | <alkorr> Permission denied (publickey,password,keyboard-interactive). | ||
2789 | <Zagor> strange | ||
2790 | <Bagder> I haven't had any problems | ||
2791 | <alkorr> i try again | ||
2792 | <Bagder> caps lock? :-) | ||
2793 | <alkorr> aahh good idea | ||
2794 | <alkorr> nope, i'm really in trouble | ||
2795 | <Bagder> hey, did you check the "bounce" screen? ;-) | ||
2796 | <alkorr> "bounce" ? | ||
2797 | <Bagder> I had a little time over this weekend... hehe | ||
2798 | <Bagder> got to excercise the lcd api a bit | ||
2799 | <Zagor> Linus: boohoo! how about some chicken lunch tomorrow? | ||
2800 | <Bagder> damned gcc | ||
2801 | <alkorr> i'm trying to login sourceforge.net to check | ||
2802 | <Linus> Zagor: great idea! 11:30? | ||
2803 | <-- Linus (~linus@labb.contactor.se) has left #rockbox | ||
2804 | <Bagder> /tmp/ccR7qwZa.s: Assembler messages: | ||
2805 | <Bagder> /tmp/ccR7qwZa.s:2: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `!'. | ||
2806 | <Bagder> /tmp/ccR7qwZa.s:3: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `!'. | ||
2807 | <Bagder> /tmp/ccR7qwZa.s:4: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `!'. | ||
2808 | <Bagder> fun huh? | ||
2809 | <Bagder> :-/ | ||
2810 | <alkorr> what are the lines ? | ||
2811 | <Bagder> no idea, the file is generated and then removed when I wanna check it out | ||
2812 | <Bagder> /tmp/ccR7qwZa.s:47: Error: no such 386 instruction: `rotcl' | ||
2813 | <alkorr> -save-temp | ||
2814 | <alkorr> ahahaha | ||
2815 | <Bagder> it seems to be a confusion to which cpu it is for | ||
2816 | <alkorr> 386 !? | ||
2817 | <Bagder> yeah | ||
2818 | <Bagder> --target=sh-elf | ||
2819 | <alkorr> ok i know | ||
2820 | <alkorr> you are calling the bad 'as' | ||
2821 | <Bagder> "the bad as" ? | ||
2822 | <alkorr> it must be 'sh-elf-as' | ||
2823 | <alkorr> yes it seems it calls not the right 'as' (assembler) | ||
2824 | <Bagder> all I do is invoke configure | ||
2825 | <Bagder> and then make | ||
2826 | <alkorr> oh you mean it doesn't come from the rockbox source ? | ||
2827 | <Bagder> this is gcc | ||
2828 | <Bagder> 3.0.3 | ||
2829 | <Bagder> I'm trying to build a cross compiler without newlib | ||
2830 | <alkorr> when you compile gcc 3.0.3 ? huh... i don't remember to have the same error... | ||
2831 | <-- jb1081 has quit (Remote closed the connection) | ||
2832 | <alkorr> well i compile gcc 3.0.3 but i fail to compile newlib, even when i asked not to add it | ||
2833 | <alkorr> compiled | ||
2834 | <alkorr> but as it compiled gcc before | ||
2835 | <alkorr> well i just make a 'make install' and it looks as if working | ||
2836 | <Zagor> does anyone know any unfixed bugs right now? | ||
2837 | * Bagder shakes his head | ||
2838 | <Bagder> thinking og 1.1 release? | ||
2839 | <Bagder> of | ||
2840 | <Zagor> yes | ||
2841 | <alkorr> normally i followed the instructions given by Linus | ||
2842 | <Zagor> it's been over two weeks | ||
2843 | <Bagder> yeah, its time | ||
2844 | <Zagor> since 1.0 and over one week since we met the roadmap for 1.1 | ||
2845 | <alkorr> and my only problem came from newlib compilation, not during gcc | ||
2846 | <Bagder> I'll sort it out | ||
2847 | <alkorr> when you compile, just try to configure without any SH binary paths added in PATH | ||
2848 | <alkorr> no it is stupid for me | ||
2849 | <alkorr> it is the contrary | ||
2850 | <alkorr> you must add the as,ld, etc. for SH target in PATH when configuring and compiling gcc | ||
2851 | <alkorr> did you make it ? | ||
2852 | <Bagder> yes | ||
2853 | <alkorr> strange... | ||
2854 | <alkorr> yes but for as or sh-elf-as ? | ||
2855 | <Bagder> sh-elf-as is the SH versin, as is the native version | ||
2856 | <alkorr> because i put the path where to find sh-elf-as | ||
2857 | <Bagder> I have them all | ||
2858 | <alkorr> weird... | ||
2859 | <Bagder> I have a theory I'm trying out now | ||
2860 | <alkorr> zagor: password for cvs is the same for sourceforge.net login ??? | ||
2861 | <Zagor> yes | ||
2862 | <alkorr> OK | ||
2863 | <alkorr> I KNOW WHAT HAPPENS | ||
2864 | <alkorr> I MUST INVERT CASE | ||
2865 | <alkorr> IT IS BECAUSE I'VE GOT A new keyboard, very weird !!!! | ||
2866 | <Zagor> Bagder: the ejz file, was it the one that came with your archos? | ||
2867 | <Bagder> yes | ||
2868 | <alkorr> aaahh i happen to get managed with downloading them. I was afraid. :/ | ||
2869 | <alkorr> ok try them. CU ! | ||
2870 | <-- alkorr has quit () | ||
2871 | <Bagder> hm, right | ||
2872 | <Bagder> --prefix has to match the binutils path when I build gcc | ||
2873 | <Bagder> Zagor: you ready to cut off the newlib headers? | ||
2874 | <Zagor> i haven't looked at it in a while. are we there? | ||
2875 | <Bagder> yes | ||
2876 | <Zagor> excellent. i am ready | ||
2877 | <Bagder> but I thought I'd install a newlib-less gcc too | ||
2878 | <Bagder> so that I can see for myself | ||
2879 | * Bagder installs | ||
2880 | --> jedix (~liam@fwott1-1.cis.ec.gc.ca) has joined #rockbox | ||
2881 | <Zagor> yes, good idea | ||
2882 | <Bagder> since elinbe and g003y both installed without newlib | ||
2883 | <Bagder> they got include errors when compiling | ||
2884 | --> plmirc (plmirc@139.189.62.62.9massy1-1-ro-bas-1.9tel.net) has joined #rockbox | ||
2885 | <plmirc> hi | ||
2886 | <Bagder> hey ho plmirc | ||
2887 | <plmirc> want to test something on a archos 10G ? | ||
2888 | <Bagder> nothing in particular right now, I think, get the latest binary and play around and see if it works! | ||
2889 | <plmirc> ata -2 | ||
2890 | <plmirc> with the last one | ||
2891 | <Bagder> gosh! | ||
2892 | <plmirc> the only one which work is the one that linus send me | ||
2893 | <Bagder> hm | ||
2894 | <Bagder> I thought we added Linus' check | ||
2895 | <plmirc> me too | ||
2896 | <Bagder> Zagor: any clues? | ||
2897 | <Zagor> hmmm | ||
2898 | <Zagor> odd | ||
2899 | <Zagor> the check is added | ||
2900 | <Zagor> where did linus go? | ||
2901 | <Bagder> dunno | ||
2902 | <plmirc> why isn't there a firmware for today about recorder version ? | ||
2903 | <Zagor> *someone* broke it... | ||
2904 | <plmirc> the last one is for yesterday | ||
2905 | <Bagder> plmirc: if you check the build status at the bottom, you can see the red boxes... | ||
2906 | <Zagor> look further down on the page and you see that the recorder build failed in the 23:40 build | ||
2907 | <Bagder> Zagor: with our own "libc" headers in include/ we could move a few dir.h and file.h etc protos into the "regular" header files | ||
2908 | <Zagor> yup | ||
2909 | <plmirc> i don't see red boxes only green at the 2002-06-17 2012:20:00 linse | ||
2910 | <plmirc> i don't see red boxes only green at the 2002-06-17 2012:20:00 line | ||
2911 | <Zagor> yes but the daily build is made at 06:00 | ||
2912 | <Bagder> 04:00 GMT actually | ||
2913 | <Zagor> right | ||
2914 | <plmirc> so we have wait to 2 hours before have the daily build for recorder | ||
2915 | <Zagor> we have to wait 14 hours for the next build | ||
2916 | <Zagor> daily means "once per day". and that once is 04:00 GMT | ||
2917 | <plmirc> hmm ok | ||
2918 | <plmirc> and if one crash.. there is anything for the day | ||
2919 | <Zagor> but you can grab my latest at bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/recorder/ajbrec.ajz | ||
2920 | <plmirc> oki | ||
2921 | <Zagor> we make more frequent development builds, but there is little point in publishing them | ||
2922 | <Bagder> uff | ||
2923 | <Bagder> sim build died | ||
2924 | <Zagor> I can imagine | ||
2925 | <plmirc> ata -2 | ||
2926 | <plmirc> again ... :'( | ||
2927 | <Zagor> plmirc: ok | ||
2928 | <Bagder> ok, it seems to work now | ||
2929 | <Bagder> no newlib headers | ||
2930 | <Zagor> nice | ||
2931 | <Bagder> and the replacement ones are really small | ||
2932 | <Zagor> i'm removing newlib from the gcc instructions, then | ||
2933 | <Bagder> yep | ||
2934 | <Zagor> do you specify --without-newlib or nothing at all? | ||
2935 | <Zagor> when compiling gcc | ||
2936 | <Bagder> nothing at all | ||
2937 | <Zagor> ok | ||
2938 | <Zagor> updated | ||
2939 | <Bagder> dang | ||
2940 | <Bagder> red builds red builds | ||
2941 | <Bagder> ctype | ||
2942 | <Zagor> booo! | ||
2943 | <Zagor> we need ctype for strcasecmp later anyway | ||
2944 | <Bagder> yeah | ||
2945 | <Zagor> this shuffle playback rocks! | ||
2946 | <plmirc> zagor : you want a retest it now ? | ||
2947 | <plmirc> zagor : you want I retest it now ? | ||
2948 | <Zagor> plmirc: no, i haven't done any changes. I need to speak to Linus first, to see what he had in the build he gave to you | ||
2949 | <plmirc> hm ok | ||
2950 | <Zagor> obviously, his code was not the same as he checked into cvs | ||
2951 | <plmirc> visually... | ||
2952 | <Bagder> Zagor: the copying file should be in FILES too, right? | ||
2953 | <Zagor> yes | ||
2954 | <Bagder> all green again | ||
2955 | <Zagor> goodie | ||
2956 | --> edx (OKE60@pD9EAB7AE.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #rockbox | ||
2957 | <edx> hi | ||
2958 | <Bagder> hi | ||
2959 | <Zagor> ironi: what's your real name (for credits) | ||
2960 | <Bagder> "Tome Cvitan" I guess | ||
2961 | <Zagor> ok | ||
2962 | <Bagder> he posted to the list once | ||
2963 | <Zagor> ah | ||
2964 | <Zagor> I'm listing three changes since 1.0: | ||
2965 | <Zagor> scrolling, playlist, shuffle | ||
2966 | <Zagor> have we done anything else? :-) | ||
2967 | <Bagder> not that is visible in the players | ||
2968 | <-- calpefrosch has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | ||
2969 | <dwihno> Zagor: Any enlightenment regarding the LCD flickering? | ||
2970 | <Zagor> no | ||
2971 | --> mecrawnicknack (~mecraw@63.172.39.2) has joined #rockbox | ||
2972 | <dwihno> Really strange. | ||
2973 | <Zagor> we'll be testing with some faster forms of scrolling later, that might solve it | ||
2974 | <Bagder> we do *two* updates when we scroll one line | ||
2975 | <Zagor> really? | ||
2976 | <Zagor> that's bad | ||
2977 | <Bagder> that's probably why | ||
2978 | <Bagder> I'll make a breakpoint and check wherefrom | ||
2979 | <Zagor> how do you get it to two? there's only one in scroll_thread() | ||
2980 | <Bagder> well, lcd_update() gets called twice ;-) | ||
2981 | <dwihno> :) | ||
2982 | <dwihno> Bagder - master of debugging | ||
2983 | <dwihno> We are all tiny grasshoppers in his presence | ||
2984 | <Bagder> first: tree.c:155 and then at tree.c:366 | ||
2985 | <Zagor> right | ||
2986 | <Bagder> showdir() should probably not do lcd_update() | ||
2987 | <Zagor> how sily | ||
2988 | <Zagor> ll | ||
2989 | <dwihno> :D | ||
2990 | <dwihno> You guys are <----- this -----> great coders :) | ||
2991 | <dwihno> Just idling in this channel, I learn lots of stuff ): | ||
2992 | <dwihno> :) | ||
2993 | * Bagder blushes | ||
2994 | <Bagder> Zagor: you fix? | ||
2995 | <Zagor> yup | ||
2996 | <Bagder> fine | ||
2997 | * dwihno learned more about regexp today :) | ||
2998 | <Bagder> I think this is the flicker | ||
2999 | <Bagder> regexes rock | ||
3000 | * dwihno starts the drumroll - will the LCD get fix0red... | ||
3001 | <edx> lol | ||
3002 | <Zagor> try this build, guys: http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/recorder/ajbrec.ajz | ||
3003 | * dwihno fetches | ||
3004 | <elinenbe|sleepin> morning all. | ||
3005 | --- elinenbe|sleepin is now known as elinebe|class | ||
3006 | <Bagder> morning elinenbe | ||
3007 | <Bagder> much better in the simulator at least | ||
3008 | <elinebe|class> what have you guys been working on last night? | ||
3009 | <Zagor> you sim guys, when will we get player icons in the simulators? :) | ||
3010 | <Bagder> can you fix us a good closeup picture showing them? | ||
3011 | <dwihno> IT'S FIXED! | ||
3012 | <dwihno> DAMN! | ||
3013 | <Zagor> nope :) | ||
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3015 | <Bagder> and an api that uses them | ||
3016 | <dwihno> YOU RULES! :D | ||
3017 | <edx> hmm the icons.. hm | ||
3018 | <Bagder> *cool* | ||
3019 | <dwihno> the button management is smoother too, I think... Am I right? | ||
3020 | <Bagder> dwihno: so it looks fine now when scrolling? | ||
3021 | <alkorr> zagor, is it you in charge of FAT ? | ||
3022 | <Zagor> yes | ||
3023 | <dwihno> Bagder: not a single flicker! :D | ||
3024 | <dwihno> Bagder: it's ... perfect! :D | ||
3025 | <dwihno> MY PRECIOUS! :D | ||
3026 | <Zagor> dwihno: nice | ||
3027 | <alkorr> there is two way to handle FAT | ||
3028 | <alkorr> mirroring FAT or just select the active FAT | ||
3029 | <alkorr> you use which one ? | ||
3030 | * dwihno would like a sorting which places dirs first, and then the files ;) | ||
3031 | <elinebe|class> did you guys ever figure out the .ejz thing? | ||
3032 | <Bagder> elinebe|class: nope | ||
3033 | <alkorr> that sorting by type could be easily done if you prefix string with one byte | ||
3034 | <Bagder> we use qsort, we don't have to prefix, we have structs | ||
3035 | <Bagder> its just that the sort function ignores type atm | ||
3036 | <alkorr> you mean you use a comp function pointer given to qsort ? | ||
3037 | <Bagder> yeps | ||
3038 | <Bagder> and it compares names only | ||
3039 | <alkorr> oh yeah | ||
3040 | <alkorr> more dynamic | ||
3041 | <alkorr> you could give to user the choice for kind of sorting :) | ||
3042 | <Bagder> indeed | ||
3043 | <Zagor> alkorr: actually, I use neither method. I use the first fat, always :) | ||
3044 | <Zagor> i sense a bug here :) | ||
3045 | <alkorr> okay, i suggest to use the active FAT on the first FAT | ||
3046 | <alkorr> that way, Windows knows the other FAT are not mirrored | ||
3047 | <Zagor> yes. still it shouldn't be much of a problem until we start writing on the disk | ||
3048 | <alkorr> yes i know, it is only a suggestion if you don't like to be forced to mirror the fats | ||
3049 | <Zagor> yes, i think it's a good suggestion | ||
3050 | <alkorr> there is a way to be sure that Windows and jukebox are synched | ||
3051 | <alkorr> to use the active fat | ||
3052 | <alkorr> but to tell the truth, i seldom see one fat partition use this mode. | ||
3053 | <alkorr> never i should say :) | ||
3054 | <Zagor> this is a little black magic. the specs say one thing, but what does windows actually do? | ||
3055 | <alkorr> i just know this option exists | ||
3056 | <alkorr> the only difficult part is that : can windows change the active fat without our demand ? | ||
3057 | <alkorr> huh, i mean : can Windows selects another active FAT without our demand | ||
3058 | <dwihno> alkorr: Today is a good day - the LCD glitch is removed! :D | ||
3059 | <alkorr> glitch ? | ||
3060 | <dwihno> yeah | ||
3061 | <alkorr> what does that mean ? | ||
3062 | <dwihno> like visible vsync's on the recorder | ||
3063 | <dwihno> a double lcd_update() | ||
3064 | <dwihno> so the scrolling is now flawless (up&down) | ||
3065 | <Zagor> dwihno: how does the side scroll look? | ||
3066 | <dwihno> Lemme check | ||
3067 | <alkorr> strange, i remember this word but i cannot find its meaning in my dictionnary :/ | ||
3068 | <alkorr> ok, understood | ||
3069 | <dwihno> Zagor: lookín' good! | ||
3070 | <alkorr> it remembers me some old story when i had a 8086 ;) | ||
3071 | <Bagder> Zagor: about the 1.1 release, you could point out how cool our playlist support is already ;-) | ||
3072 | <dwihno> But the directory reading still appears a bit broken | ||
3073 | <Zagor> dwihno: that's really strange. I can't repeat that no matter what I do | ||
3074 | <dwihno> Hmm... Weird :/ | ||
3075 | <dwihno> I'll let you have a look at my unit when I get to stockholm in july if the problem hasn't been solved by then ;) | ||
3076 | <alkorr> Zagor: my suggestion is just that at booting, if jukebox sees the FAT partition is mirroring, it sets first FAT active. | ||
3077 | * Bagder sense another devcon ;-) | ||
3078 | <dwihno> play should also allow entering a directory/play a file | ||
3079 | <dwihno> YAY! DEVCON! :D | ||
3080 | <Zagor> Bagder: yeah, i'm raving a bit about that :) | ||
3081 | <Zagor> alkorr: yes | ||
3082 | * Bagder is going home, see ya | ||
3083 | <-- Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) has left #rockbox | ||
3084 | <Zagor> i'm thinking if we should wait for the recorder ata fix or release 1.1 without it | ||
3085 | <dwihno> the scroll is so darn cool! | ||
3086 | <dwihno> Kudos to the scrolly ppl! | ||
3087 | <alkorr> Zagor: no problem, just a recall for future | ||
3088 | <Zagor> dwihno: hehe, glad you like it | ||
3089 | <dwihno> :D | ||
3090 | <dwihno> I'm not mentioned in the credits :¨¨( | ||
3091 | * dwihno plays some sokoban and gets happy again | ||
3092 | <alkorr> dwihno: watch the jukebox power ;) | ||
3093 | <dwihno> yay! :) | ||
3094 | <alkorr> huh can you really watch the power bar ? | ||
3095 | <Zagor> no | ||
3096 | --> matsl (~matsl@dhcp102.contactor.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
3097 | <alkorr> ok a future TODO... | ||
3098 | <Zagor> ooh, matsl! | ||
3099 | <dwihno> matsl = ? | ||
3100 | <Zagor> a coworker of mine | ||
3101 | <dwihno> secret undercover archos employee! | ||
3102 | <dwihno> secret undercover archos employee! | ||
3103 | <dwihno> secret undercover archos employee! | ||
3104 | <dwihno> :) | ||
3105 | <edx> cool co-workers only talk via irc :) | ||
3106 | <matsl> Hi there! Is there a todo-list for the player somewhere? | ||
3107 | <Zagor> matsl: not really, we make it up as we go along :) | ||
3108 | <matsl> ok. Any suggestion for a small first hack? | ||
3109 | --> alan (alkorr@srs03v-3-246.n.club-internet.fr) has joined #rockbox | ||
3110 | <-- alkorr has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | ||
3111 | <alan> ??? | ||
3112 | <dwihno> matsl: do you have an archos too? :) | ||
3113 | <matsl> jupp | ||
3114 | <alan> matsl: your domain ? | ||
3115 | <dwihno> Darn, 75% of contactor are cool ;D | ||
3116 | <dwihno> I guess Zagor has promoted it widely ;) | ||
3117 | <Zagor> dwihno: what's wrong with the others? ;) | ||
3118 | <dwihno> Zagor: they are secret undercover dudes and girls! | ||
3119 | <matsl> Domain??? | ||
3120 | <alan> i mean your skills | ||
3121 | <alan> are you electroncians, programmer, etc. | ||
3122 | <matsl> Programmer | ||
3123 | <alan> you bought a jukebox because of Vjörn ? :) | ||
3124 | <alan> s/V/B | ||
3125 | <Zagor> matsl: i can't think of any small isolated things. what we need right now (after 1.1 release) is improved UI. | ||
3126 | <matsl> OK | ||
3127 | <Zagor> we need to get back to viewing the id3 tag while playing, simpler volume adjustment, next/prev track etc. | ||
3128 | <alan> BTW, what is the status of Rockbox with Recorder ? oh yes cannot play with mpeg (missing MAS stuff) | ||
3129 | <dwihno> Patience, grasshopper ;) | ||
3130 | <Zagor> alan: yes. also it seems the rec6/10 ata problem is not completely solved yet. plmirc can't get his started. | ||
3131 | <Zagor> we haven't been able to reach linus since lunch, so we don't know what he did. his build is the only one that works for plmirc... | ||
3132 | <alan> just a question, the ATA addresses are all 3xx for Rec6/10 and 2xx for Rec20 ? | ||
3133 | <Zagor> no, just the CONTROL and STATUS | ||
3134 | <alan> okay, it is the problem | ||
3135 | <Zagor> ?? | ||
3136 | <alan> all the address must be 3xx or 2xx. There must be no mixing of 3xx and 2xx addresses | ||
3137 | <Zagor> no, but that's ok. there is only 3 or 2. | ||
3138 | <matsl> OK. Bye folks. See you later. | ||
3139 | <Zagor> the rest of the registers use 1 | ||
3140 | <Zagor> bye mats | ||
3141 | <alan> oh yes | ||
3142 | <alan> ALTSTAT you mean | ||
3143 | <alan> sorry :) | ||
3144 | <Zagor> yes | ||
3145 | <alan> yes you are totally right | ||
3146 | <-- matsl has quit ("Liece") | ||
3147 | <-- green_ has quit ("Client Exiting") | ||
3148 | <jedix> hey guys | ||
3149 | <Zagor> hi | ||
3150 | <jedix> whats up? | ||
3151 | <Zagor> preparing for 1.1 relase. fixed some playlist issues | ||
3152 | <jedix> if nibbles isn't implemented I'm not going to be happy | ||
3153 | <Zagor> nibbles? | ||
3154 | <miah> i'd rather see features than games.. | ||
3155 | <miah> games == waste of time | ||
3156 | <miah> listening to music while riding the T == good thing | ||
3157 | <Zagor> the current player is definitely T material, with the playlist support | ||
3158 | <dwihno> :D | ||
3159 | <dwihno> yeah, especially the recorder build ;D | ||
3160 | <Zagor> the recorder is getting games because we're all waiting for the MAS code to be ready | ||
3161 | <dwihno> A little poll... What kind of ear/headphones do you guys have? | ||
3162 | <Zagor> and, face it, the recorder is too fun to leave alone :) | ||
3163 | <Zagor> Sony EX70 | ||
3164 | <miah> i have those sony wrap arounds | ||
3165 | <Zagor> big poll :) | ||
3166 | <dwihno> :) | ||
3167 | <dwihno> yeah | ||
3168 | <dwihno> :) | ||
3169 | <dwihno> I'm impressed, are you impressed? | ||
3170 | <dwihno> I'm Mike Levy, for amazing discoveries! | ||
3171 | <dwihno> *do the hand thing in the air* | ||
3172 | <dwihno> those earphones look really weird Zagor | ||
3173 | <miah> when rockbox has equilizer support (like the archos does, adjust bass, trebil, etc) then i'll be happy.. | ||
3174 | <Zagor> they rule | ||
3175 | <Zagor> miah: it already has | ||
3176 | <miah> oh? its implemented now? | ||
3177 | <miah> i havnt looked since 1.0 | ||
3178 | <dwihno> it's in the menu | ||
3179 | <Zagor> 1.0 had it. "sound" in the menu. | ||
3180 | <miah> nice | ||
3181 | <miah> ah, imust have missed it | ||
3182 | <dwihno> Zagor: how expensive were the phones? | ||
3183 | <miah> damn, boards of canada has a trippy site | ||
3184 | <alan> very very hot, i swear ;//// | ||
3185 | <alan> cu | ||
3186 | <-- alan has quit () | ||
3187 | <Zagor> dwihno: something like 500 SEK i think | ||
3188 | <dwihno> Whoa | ||
3189 | <dwihno> what makes them so special? | ||
3190 | <dwihno> I'm quite satisfied with my sony blahblah-something for 350 SEK | ||
3191 | <Zagor> the sound, simply... they have awesome sound | ||
3192 | <dwihno> Well, you must let me test them on DEVCON, mkay? :) | ||
3193 | <Zagor> yeah, so was I until I tried these | ||
3194 | <Zagor> hehe, sure | ||
3195 | <edx> what headfones are they | ||
3196 | <edx> (product name..) | ||
3197 | <Zagor> Sony EX70 | ||
3198 | * dwihno has some sony stuff for biking and sennheiser HD 570 for "comfortable" listening | ||
3199 | <edx> ah those.. for 40 Euros.. (or where thos diffrerent ones) | ||
3200 | <dwihno> Zagor: how is the bass? | ||
3201 | * dwihno listens much to evil dance beats | ||
3202 | <Zagor> dwihno: the best. seriously. I keep it at ~10% setting on the recorder, and that's plenty | ||
3203 | <dwihno> :) | ||
3204 | * edx needs those headphones | ||
3205 | <dwihno> Darn... My laptop purchase will leave me broke for a decade :) | ||
3206 | <Zagor> hehe | ||
3207 | <dwihno> But at least, I can play q3a :) | ||
3208 | <dwihno> I was thinking about making a HD swap (laptop <--> archos) :) | ||
3209 | <Zagor> hehe | ||
3210 | <miah> heh | ||
3211 | <dwihno> then I realized I need to get a bigger disk | ||
3212 | <dwihno> 30 gig is not enough | ||
3213 | <miah> i'd much rather have 30gigs in my laptop | ||
3214 | <dwihno> yeah | ||
3215 | <dwihno> I'll get a 40 gig disk for the archos | ||
3216 | <dwihno> and keep all music in that | ||
3217 | <dwihno> then I'll keep all code and stuff in the laptop | ||
3218 | <miah> the only thing i hate about archos is FAT32 | ||
3219 | <miah> and defraging over USB | ||
3220 | <Zagor> seriously, fat32 isn't such a bad choice for this kind of device. | ||
3221 | <miah> yea | ||
3222 | <miah> i know, but fragmentation sucks ass | ||
3223 | <Zagor> it's plain and simple, no fuss no special features | ||
3224 | <Zagor> fragmentation, with 3+ meg files? | ||
3225 | <miah> yep | ||
3226 | <miah> most of my mp3's are 6-10megs | ||
3227 | <Zagor> you must be doing a LOT of back-and-forth:ing... | ||
3228 | * dwihno agrees to Zagor | ||
3229 | <miah> not really, but i havnt defrag'd in over a year, and i can tell you, songs skip now | ||
3230 | <dwihno> they do? | ||
3231 | <dwihno> what model do you have? | ||
3232 | <miah> 6000 | ||
3233 | <dwihno> ah, mkay | ||
3234 | <Zagor> weird | ||
3235 | <miah> but after i defrag, its all happy | ||
3236 | <dwihno> What amount of buffer is it in the 6000? | ||
3237 | <miah> 2meg i think | ||
3238 | <Zagor> yep, same as the others | ||
3239 | <dwihno> defrag:ing once a year is something you do when you're at your friend's place (Zagor, hehe) with an USB2 interface ;) | ||
3240 | <miah> i encode all my mp3's with vbr, and alot of the songs i listen to are really long (lots of autechre, squarepusher, boards of canada, and other strangeness) | ||
3241 | <miah> so they're long | ||
3242 | <miah> and big files.. the songs i have that are 128k and small (punk stuff) playback pretty well, i dont have many problems with them | ||
3243 | <Zagor> miah: you could try running an analysis on it and see. i still thing it sounds odd to get fragmentation problems on this big files | ||
3244 | <miah> yea | ||
3245 | <miah> i make sure to run scandisk/norton disk doctor on it every now and then | ||
3246 | <Zagor> i never do that :) | ||
3247 | <edx> Zagor: Are those yours: MDR-EX70LP | ||
3248 | <Zagor> yup | ||
3249 | <edx> cool %0$ | ||
3250 | <edx> 50 | ||
3251 | <edx> .. hmm gotta have them.. i use the standrd archos headphones right now.. | ||
3252 | <dwihno> they remind me of earplugs :) | ||
3253 | <dwihno> ouch | ||
3254 | <dwihno> you need to replace those headphones! | ||
3255 | <edx> with the volume control they really suck LOL | ||
3256 | <edx> i know | ||
3257 | <dwihno> My boss got my archos headphones ): | ||
3258 | <dwihno> :) | ||
3259 | <dwihno> He said "the sound quality is good" | ||
3260 | <dwihno> Then I just smiled | ||
3261 | <edx> guess i'll change the style of music i listen to if i change my headphones haha | ||
3262 | <Zagor> gotta go. see you tomorrow, guys! | ||
3263 | <-- Zagor has quit ("Client Exiting") | ||
3264 | <dwihno> I should go too | ||
3265 | <dwihno> But I need to fix some code first | ||
3266 | <dwihno> Otherwise I'll have to spend time tomorrow to get in synch with the coding | ||
3267 | --- jedix is now known as jedi|lunch | ||
3268 | <edx> dwihno: the bass gets down to 6 HZ with those head phones :) | ||
3269 | <dwihno> whoaaaaaa :D~~ | ||
3270 | * dwihno is looking forward to DEVCON, so I can test Zagor's headgear | ||
3271 | <edx> they really must rock | ||
3272 | <edx> i'll order them today i guess hehe | ||
3273 | <dwihno> you rich pants dude! :) | ||
3274 | <dwihno> How long is the delivery? | ||
3275 | <dwihno> I'd like to hear your opinion about the headphones too :) | ||
3276 | <edx> i dont knwo .. a few days (delviery) | ||
3277 | <dwihno> I want my laptop! :( | ||
3278 | <dwihno> They haven't even confirmed the order yet :( | ||
3279 | <edx> heh i want to buy head phones for at least half a year now.. | ||
3280 | <edx> your laptop rocks ;) | ||
3281 | <edx> hehe | ||
3282 | <dwihno> It sure will rock - for at least three years | ||
3283 | <edx> hehe | ||
3284 | <dwihno> Stupid of me to think so, huh ;) ? | ||
3285 | <edx> nah.. i guess it will last at least two years in a really acceptable speed and it'll certainly still be "enough" after 4 years.. :) | ||
3286 | <dwihno> yeah :) | ||
3287 | <dwihno> Then I'll sell my soul once again and get a new one ;) | ||
3288 | <edx> hehe | ||
3289 | * dwihno looks in the crystal ball... I see... A P6 6,2GHz, 2 gigs of RAM and 2tb disk :) | ||
3290 | <edx> 4 gigs ram.. my guess :) | ||
3291 | <dwihno> hehe ;) | ||
3292 | <dwihno> 40 gig of RAM in the box, 40 gigs of RAM, if one would fail or starting to bail, then there'll be 39 gigs of RAM in the box | ||
3293 | <dwihno> ;) | ||
3294 | <edx> hhe | ||
3295 | <edx> NICK edxUSER OKE60 "" "irc.dal.net" :edx | ||
3296 | <edx> lol | ||
3297 | <edx> geht schon so ein bisschen LOL | ||
3298 | <dwihno> Was machst du? | ||
3299 | <edx> wtf.. | ||
3300 | <edx> wrong channel window | ||
3301 | <edx> i am sorry | ||
3302 | <edx> im currently writing a proxy program and im debugging :) | ||
3303 | <dwihno> ah | ||
3304 | <dwihno> Aber was machst du? | ||
3305 | <-- plmirc has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | ||
3306 | <dwihno> Hast du der Ober heute gesehen? | ||
3307 | --> Bagder2 (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
3308 | <edx> lol.. | ||
3309 | <Bagder2> moo | ||
3310 | <edx> "der Ober" whats that supposed to mean | ||
3311 | <edx> hi bagder | ||
3312 | <dwihno> howdy ho, mr bagder | ||
3313 | <dwihno> mr. bagdad :) | ||
3314 | <edx> Ober.. there is a word.. lkike "waiter | ||
3315 | <edx> " | ||
3316 | <edx> ? | ||
3317 | <dwihno> yup :) | ||
3318 | <edx> then it is: | ||
3319 | <edx> "Hast du den Ober heute gesehen" | ||
3320 | <edx> hehe | ||
3321 | <-- mecrawnicknack has quit ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") | ||
3322 | <dwihno> Me + grammars = BAAAD combination | ||
3323 | <dwihno> One house, two house :) | ||
3324 | <edx> heh | ||
3325 | <edx> one sheep two sheep.. that works out ;) | ||
3326 | <dwihno> :) | ||
3327 | <dwihno> two sheeps! :;) | ||
3328 | <edx> two sheep. | ||
3329 | <Bagder2> too cheap | ||
3330 | <dwihno> haha | ||
3331 | <edx> (anyone *really* English here?) | ||
3332 | <edx> btw.. just found the Sony headphonse for 38Euros.. | ||
3333 | <Bagder2> been a while since wavey was around | ||
3334 | <edx> about to buy them :)( | ||
3335 | * Bagder2 's mp3sync-script rocks | ||
3336 | <Bagder2> keeps my archos synced with my local mp3 collection | ||
3337 | <edx> hehe | ||
3338 | <dwihno> how does it work? | ||
3339 | <dwihno> edx: cool! buy me some and I'll wear a "Felix kick arse" sweater all summer, deal? :) | ||
3340 | <Bagder2> it checks if all my local mp3s are on the archos, and if I removed any local ones I should remove on the archos too | ||
3341 | <edx> hehehe.. | ||
3342 | <dwihno> Bagder2: so the local copy is a master? | ||
3343 | <Bagder2> yes | ||
3344 | <Bagder2> exactly | ||
3345 | <dwihno> I'm --> <-- this close to finish off for the night | ||
3346 | --> mecraw (~mecraw@63.172.39.2) has joined #rockbox | ||
3347 | --- jedi|lunch is now known as jedix | ||
3348 | * edx has just ordered his Sony MDR-EX70LP :) | ||
3349 | <dwihno> :D | ||
3350 | <dwihno> Now you're a copy of Zagor! | ||
3351 | <dwihno> * edx is now known as Zagor-edx | ||
3352 | <edx> LOL | ||
3353 | <dwihno> Darn | ||
3354 | <dwihno> I want one of those too | ||
3355 | <dwihno> When I get rich | ||
3356 | --- edx is now known as edx|Zagor | ||
3357 | <dwihno> WHOA! | ||
3358 | <edx|Zagor> you get a laptop for 2500 Bucks... be quiet :) | ||
3359 | --- edx|Zagor is now known as edx | ||
3360 | <dwihno> Welcome to the twilight zone! | ||
3361 | <edx> lol | ||
3362 | <dwihno> Welcome, to the edx zone! For the next 20 seconds, he will control everything you see and hear ;) | ||
3363 | <edx> *beeb* | ||
3364 | * Bagder2 felt controlled | ||
3365 | * edx controlled bagder... and dwihno | ||
3366 | <dwihno> Where am I? Who are you? | ||
3367 | <dwihno> And why am I wearing pantyhoses? :) | ||
3368 | <ironi> hehe | ||
3369 | <ironi> hi there | ||
3370 | <dwihno> hellojs ironi | ||
3371 | <dwihno> dokthar irouni | ||
3372 | <ironi> dwihno: one of those situations again, huh? | ||
3373 | <dwihno> <-- masters the persian language | ||
3374 | <dwihno> tavalod moborak! | ||
3375 | <ironi> but | ||
3376 | <ironi> t they'r ejust $49.95 | ||
3377 | <ironi> not very expensive | ||
3378 | <ironi> i still think my headphones rulle the planet when it comes to price/performance/cool design | ||
3379 | <ironi> Koss PortaPro | ||
3380 | <dwihno> My Sennheiser HD570 pumps the jam quite nicely too ;D | ||
3381 | <ironi> but they are not really portable | ||
3382 | <ironi> and sennheiser cant deliver base | ||
3383 | <dwihno> these babies can :) | ||
3384 | <ironi> btw, if you want earplugs, you should consider the koss ksc-35 | ||
3385 | <ironi> they're cheap but supposedly MEAN | ||
3386 | <ironi> uhm i mean like not earplugs but on the ear phones without bygel =) | ||
3387 | <ironi> dwihno: let me win you over: http://www.ljudman.se/portapro.htm | ||
3388 | <ironi> or perhaps http://www.ljudman.se/ksc35.htm | ||
3389 | <ironi> now i gotta rest, im kinda sick | ||
3390 | * ironi is gone, *sick* [l/on p/on] | ||
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3392 | <-- elinenbe (trilluser@bgp01080511bgs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) has left #rockbox | ||
3393 | --> elinenbe (trilluser@bgp01080511bgs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) has joined #rockbox | ||
3394 | <-- elinebe|class has quit ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") | ||
3395 | --- edx is now known as edx|eatz | ||
3396 | --- dwihno is now known as dw|gone0r | ||
3397 | --- Bagder2 is now known as Bagder | ||
3398 | <-- Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) has left #rockbox | ||
3399 | --- edx|eatz is now known as edx | ||
3400 | <-- mecraw (~mecraw@63.172.39.2) has left #rockbox | ||
3401 | --> dfg (~prv@209.166.235.91) has joined #rockbox | ||
3402 | --> g003y (~g003y@dynamic-195-63.hotwired.com) has joined #rockbox | ||
3403 | <g003y> sup alll? | ||
3404 | <-- jedix has quit ("and then, just like that, he dissapeared") | ||
3405 | <g003y> dang my playlists never play. They load, but never really play. | ||
3406 | <-- edx has quit ("good night") | ||
3407 | <-- ironi has quit ("zzz <k!15b8>") | ||
3408 | <-- dfg has quit ("Client Exiting") | ||
3409 | <g003y> anyone awakre? | ||
3410 | <g003y> awake that is | ||
3411 | <-- g003y has quit ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") | ||
3412 | --> motiv01 (~trillian@sdn-ar-001ncraleP291.dialsprint.net) has joined #rockbox | ||
3413 | <elinenbe> hello there | ||
3414 | <PsycoXul> no, hello here | ||
3415 | --> g003y (~foo@m198-187.dsl.rawbw.com) has joined #rockbox | ||
3416 | <-- motiv01 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | ||
3417 | <g003y> hello all | ||
3418 | <g003y> acck.... | ||
3419 | <g003y> what did they do to the current tree? | ||
3420 | --> motiv01_ (~trillian@sdn-ar-001ncraleP243.dialsprint.net) has joined #rockbox | ||
3421 | <-- g003y has quit ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") | ||
3422 | --- dw|gone0r is now known as dwihn0r | ||
3423 | * adi|home screams softly into the night | ||
3424 | --> g003y (~foo@m198-187.dsl.rawbw.com) has joined #rockbox | ||
3425 | * dwihn0r sings the rockbox anthem | ||
3426 | --> Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
3427 | <dwihn0r> Hellojs Bagder | ||
3428 | <Bagder> morning | ||
3429 | --- dwihn0r is now known as dwihno | ||
3430 | <Bagder> bad apache | ||
3431 | * Bagder rebuilds | ||
3432 | * Bagder installs | ||
3433 | --> Linus (~linus@labb.contactor.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
3434 | <Bagder> morning Linus | ||
3435 | <Linus> morning | ||
3436 | <Linus> Did you find out anything about the .ejz files yesterday? | ||
3437 | <Bagder> no | ||
3438 | <Bagder> but we fixed the flicker | ||
3439 | <Linus> oh. too many redraws? | ||
3440 | <Bagder> yeps | ||
3441 | <Bagder> one extra | ||
3442 | <Bagder> looks a lot better now | ||
3443 | <Linus> great | ||
3444 | <dwihno> :D | ||
3445 | <dwihno> Looks awesome! | ||
3446 | <Linus> How is sokoban? | ||
3447 | <dwihno> Kickass! :) | ||
3448 | <Linus> R00lz! | ||
3449 | <dwihno> The key code needs an overhaul though | ||
3450 | <dwihno> http://robotron.ton.tut.fi/love_on_video/koto_-_jabdah_(formel_eins).mpg | ||
3451 | <Linus> the key code? You mean the bouncing? | ||
3452 | <dwihno> bouncing? | ||
3453 | <Linus> or what did you mean? | ||
3454 | <adi|home> anyone played with the rockbox on the recorder yet? | ||
3455 | <dwihno> <-- did | ||
3456 | <dwihno> hmm | ||
3457 | * Bagder did too | ||
3458 | <dwihno> on the recorder, the button processing code is fishy, sometimes when I press once, it does the button action twice etc. | ||
3459 | <adi|home> did you find that the reboots seem to happen even with the dc in? | ||
3460 | <Linus> dwihno: that's contact bouncing | ||
3461 | <Bagder> reboots? | ||
3462 | <Bagder> I got no reboots | ||
3463 | <adi|home> the battery issue | ||
3464 | <adi|home> when i have the dc in, i still seem to get reboots | ||
3465 | <Linus> that sucks | ||
3466 | <Linus> adi|home: that _could_ be a grounding problem | ||
3467 | <adi|home> hmmm.. ok | ||
3468 | <adi|home> ideas on a solution? | ||
3469 | <g003y> hmph... all these recorder types. | ||
3470 | <g003y> :) | ||
3471 | <Linus> g003y: I take it you're a Player owner... :-) | ||
3472 | <g003y> yeah | ||
3473 | <Linus> me too. I have both :-) | ||
3474 | <g003y> though wish I had that nice bitmap screen :D | ||
3475 | <Bagder> g003y: you cvsup'ed recently? | ||
3476 | <g003y> a few hours ago | ||
3477 | <g003y> but my build is all jacked now | ||
3478 | <Bagder> oh | ||
3479 | <Linus> g003y: See it from the bright side, you can at least play music on your box. | ||
3480 | <Bagder> I had a go a the include issue yday | ||
3481 | <g003y> haheheehhe... just wish I could get the playlist to actually work | ||
3482 | <g003y> I noticed that | ||
3483 | <Bagder> we should dig into that problem of yours | ||
3484 | <Bagder> Björn played an all-disk playlist yesterday on his player fine | ||
3485 | <g003y> I see the includes but now time.h begs for machine/somthing.h | ||
3486 | <Bagder> uh | ||
3487 | <g003y> bagder - I think I'm still doing something wrong with the playlists | ||
3488 | <Bagder> how did you make your playlist? | ||
3489 | <g003y> tried a number of ways so far. | ||
3490 | <g003y> 1) Vi | ||
3491 | <g003y> 2) Winamp | ||
3492 | <g003y> 3) Sonqiue | ||
3493 | <g003y> 4) a script on the file system | ||
3494 | <Bagder> because staring only yesterday we support windows drive names and backslashes | ||
3495 | <Bagder> i also believe that the file names are case sensitive | ||
3496 | <g003y> well I tried the 17th compile from work today, but no luck | ||
3497 | <Bagder> ok | ||
3498 | <g003y> that was with a drag n drop from the drive to winamp | ||
3499 | <g003y> I know PsycoXul was having probs before, but he hasn't been back to confirm if it started working for him. | ||
3500 | <Bagder> well, I guess Zagor must show you a version working for him and then you can try that | ||
3501 | <Bagder> I have no player, I can't play at all ;-) | ||
3502 | <dwihno> Linus: contact bouncing? | ||
3503 | <g003y> yeah a working example would be nice. | ||
3504 | <Bagder> dwihno: yes, when one keypress kind of "jumps" on the contact so that it gets registered as two or more | ||
3505 | <g003y> thats been resolved? | ||
3506 | <dwihno> Bagder: I never have that problem with the archos firmware :) | ||
3507 | <Bagder> dwihno: no, because they "debounce" | ||
3508 | <adi|home> did i miss any of the core apis getting changed? | ||
3509 | <g003y> archos has all the docs the bastards :D | ||
3510 | <adi|home> namely, the rectangle functions? | ||
3511 | <Bagder> cheaters ;-) | ||
3512 | <Bagder> adi|home: they changed? | ||
3513 | <adi|home> i don't know | ||
3514 | <Bagder> hm | ||
3515 | <adi|home> suddenly boxes isn't working | ||
3516 | <Bagder> I might be responsible | ||
3517 | <adi|home> what was 'screensaver' | ||
3518 | <adi|home> it works.. but not properly | ||
3519 | <adi|home> what didyou change? | ||
3520 | * dwihno will write a polite e-mail to the archos dudes asking for docs and how they do the battery stuff | ||
3521 | <Bagder> did it use the XOR feature? | ||
3522 | <adi|home> nope | ||
3523 | <Bagder> ok, then I don't think its me ;-) | ||
3524 | <Bagder> so what doesn't work? | ||
3525 | <adi|home> im trying to figure out what went wrong | ||
3526 | <adi|home> but the'shrinking' boxes aren't displaying | ||
3527 | <Bagder> it works in my simulator right now | ||
3528 | <adi|home> really? | ||
3529 | <Bagder> yeps | ||
3530 | <adi|home> the boxes grow and shrink? | ||
3531 | <Bagder> yeps | ||
3532 | <adi|home> when did you last do a cvs update? | ||
3533 | <Bagder> just now | ||
3534 | <adi|home> ill update again | ||
3535 | <adi|home> i noticed it because the firmware on the website doesn't do it properly | ||
3536 | <Bagder> the daily one? | ||
3537 | <adi|home> yup | ||
3538 | <adi|home> btw.. how do i remove a file from cvs? | ||
3539 | <Bagder> odd | ||
3540 | <adi|home> screensaver.[ch] don't need to be there anymore | ||
3541 | <Bagder> rm file; cvs rm file | ||
3542 | <Bagder> cvs ci file | ||
3543 | <g003y> ahhh... current compiles for me again after a cvs update | ||
3544 | <Bagder> goodie | ||
3545 | <adi|home> god i love the world cup | ||
3546 | * adi|home smiles happily | ||
3547 | <g003y> oh crap.... I think I spoke too soon on current. crap :/ | ||
3548 | --> Zagor (~bjst@mimas.contactor.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
3549 | <Zagor> hey there | ||
3550 | <Bagder> g003y: what fails then? | ||
3551 | <Bagder> hey Zagor, g003y has problems with playlists | ||
3552 | <g003y> well I do a clean get. | ||
3553 | * dwihno has no problems with rockbox | ||
3554 | <g003y> and it says it can't find machine/types.h | ||
3555 | <dwihno> other than the fishy filename thing | ||
3556 | <g003y> I used to do the -I/usr/include hack on the makefile | ||
3557 | <Bagder> uh, remove that machine/types thing | ||
3558 | <g003y> but now you have all the includy stuff going on | ||
3559 | <Bagder> I'll do it now | ||
3560 | <g003y> it's in time.h | ||
3561 | <g003y> which was added recently | ||
3562 | <Bagder> I know, gone now ;-) | ||
3563 | <g003y> cool | ||
3564 | <g003y> why did you add it ? | ||
3565 | <g003y> can recorder tell time? | ||
3566 | <g003y> :D | ||
3567 | <Zagor> yes it can | ||
3568 | <Bagder> we use that include file, that's why I added it | ||
3569 | <g003y> but the player can't right? | ||
3570 | <Zagor> but we haven't implemented it yet | ||
3571 | <Zagor> right | ||
3572 | <g003y> damn.... another reason to buy the recorder | ||
3573 | * adi|home screams | ||
3574 | <Bagder> I made a find and grepped out all libc headers we used and made sure I provided all them | ||
3575 | <adi|home> bagder | ||
3576 | * Bagder looks at adi|home | ||
3577 | <adi|home> there is NO way you have a upto date cvs | ||
3578 | <adi|home> boxes isn't working proper | ||
3579 | <adi|home> im tellign you | ||
3580 | <g003y> hahahahahahahahaha | ||
3581 | * adi|home is _not_ insane | ||
3582 | <Bagder> I can't but to cvs up | ||
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3584 | <g003y> zagor: can you provide me with a smallish example working m3u you've been using? | ||
3585 | <Zagor> adi|home: boxes work for me in sim at least | ||
3586 | <g003y> I would like to verify if I'm an idiot | ||
3587 | <adi|home> Zagor.. you have a recorder? | ||
3588 | <Zagor> yes | ||
3589 | <adi|home> test the latest daily build | ||
3590 | <adi|home> check the boxes | ||
3591 | <Zagor> g003y: F:\Film/Soundtrack - Cast Away (End Credits) - Silvestri.mp3 | ||
3592 | <Zagor> Always (Song Duet).mp3 | ||
3593 | <Zagor> Reunion.mp3 | ||
3594 | <adi|home> it _doesnt'_ work | ||
3595 | <Zagor> oops, stripped leding slashes :) | ||
3596 | <Zagor> adi|home: ok, will test | ||
3597 | <adi|home> thank you :) | ||
3598 | <Zagor> g003y: what is the problem you get? | ||
3599 | * adi|home places the pistol to his tempel | ||
3600 | <adi|home> go ahead.. tell me im crazy... | ||
3601 | <adi|home> i dare you | ||
3602 | <g003y> well playlist appears to load, but then just sits at the <no artist> <no title> | ||
3603 | * adi|home whinces.... blinks.. turns the gun around | ||
3604 | <adi|home> barrel end has the bullets | ||
3605 | <Zagor> adi|home: i fixed dynamic IRC page yesterday, so you only have to add the log file now, not update the page | ||
3606 | * adi|home make a mental note | ||
3607 | <adi|home> sweet | ||
3608 | <adi|home> i have to update the log from this weekend | ||
3609 | <Bagder> the playlist playing doesn't update the screen to anything, does it? | ||
3610 | <Bagder> g003y: and you name your file whatever.m3u ? | ||
3611 | <g003y> blah.m3u | ||
3612 | <Zagor> Bagder: no it doesn't | ||
3613 | <Bagder> g003y: it saying <no artist> indicates that it doesn't think it is a playlist | ||
3614 | <g003y> hmmm | ||
3615 | <g003y> ok | ||
3616 | <g003y> well I must've f'd up somehow then | ||
3617 | <Zagor> g003y: is it lowercase? | ||
3618 | <g003y> the whole filename? | ||
3619 | <Linus> Zagor: I forgot your NewPlayer this morning | ||
3620 | <Bagder> the extension | ||
3621 | <g003y> zagor: the whole filename is lowercase | ||
3622 | <Zagor> Linus: bah! no chicken for you!!! :) | ||
3623 | <Zagor> g003y: strange | ||
3624 | <Linus> Zagor: Pleeeeze. Have some chicken with me....! | ||
3625 | <g003y> zagor: I know... thats why I think it's user error still | ||