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1 | **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jun 13 04:36:02 2002 | ||
2 | |||
3 | --> stile (~adiamas@216.194.26.64) has joined #rockbox | ||
4 | --- Topic for #rockbox is Version 1.0 released! http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/ | ||
5 | --- Topic for #rockbox set by ChanServ at Tue Jun 11 03:31:20 | ||
6 | <stile> after much thought and decision making.. ive decided.. ppl in general.. suck :) | ||
7 | <Bagder> you didn't already know? ;-) | ||
8 | <-- adi|home has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | ||
9 | <stile> i just dind't know they sucked so bad | ||
10 | --- You are now known as adi|home | ||
11 | <Bagder> "just one more time, for the sake of sanity... tell me why, explain the gravity" | ||
12 | * Bagder sings along | ||
13 | * g003y wonders what song bagder is singing, and how is co-worker's feel about his voice | ||
14 | <Bagder> I play so loud in my headphones I can't hear them anyway ;-) | ||
15 | <g003y> hahahahaha | ||
16 | <Bagder> and the song is an Assemblage 23 one | ||
17 | * Bagder doesn't expect anyone to know it | ||
18 | <g003y> 4 on the floor techno? | ||
19 | <Bagder> I wouldn't call it techno, but rather dark and hard synth/industrial | ||
20 | <g003y> ahhh... thats different. I'm talking the shit you hear in clubs that sounds like one big freaking record the dj never changes :D | ||
21 | <Bagder> ah, nah, I'm not into that kind | ||
22 | <g003y> thats good :D | ||
23 | <g003y> is there a key combo with the current firmware build that lets you get back to the currently playing song display? | ||
24 | <Bagder> I dunno | ||
25 | <Bagder> heck, I hardly know how to use it at all ;-) | ||
26 | <g003y> hmmm.. I don't see one in the code so I'll assume no. | ||
27 | <g003y> :D | ||
28 | <Bagder> I want my rockbox | ||
29 | <dwihno> :D | ||
30 | <dwihno> I want rockbox for recorder! :D | ||
31 | <dwihno> But I'm patient | ||
32 | <dwihno> So I'll just wait | ||
33 | <dwihno> And contribute to the project in every way I may :) | ||
34 | <Bagder> the day there's sound from the MAS3587, I'll run Rockbox non-stop | ||
35 | <dwihno> MAS3587? The chip in R20? | ||
36 | <Bagder> yeah | ||
37 | <dwihno> mkay | ||
38 | <g003y> ahhh... I'm running my own personal build of rockbox right now :D | ||
39 | <Bagder> that's the spirit! | ||
40 | <dwihno> Yeah, playlist parsing, LCD flickering and a couple of other things and I'll use it too | ||
41 | <Bagder> it ain't cool if you didn't build it yourself ;-) | ||
42 | <g003y> I saw some cvs comments about playlist parsing support | ||
43 | <g003y> so I suspect that is nearing completion | ||
44 | <g003y> or useable | ||
45 | <Bagder> the code is already there actually | ||
46 | <g003y> ahh good deal | ||
47 | <Bagder> just not shuffle | ||
48 | <g003y> fair enough | ||
49 | <Bagder> it "should" work now | ||
50 | <g003y> I haven't loaded any yet | ||
51 | <dwihno> Bagder: any limitations? I mean, does it parse m3u's with #-style comments? | ||
52 | <g003y> been awhile since I've used playlists to be honest | ||
53 | <Bagder> me neither, I have a recorder ;-) | ||
54 | <Bagder> dwihno: no comments, no | ||
55 | <Bagder> do regular m3us have them? | ||
56 | <g003y> those are bastard m3us that nullsoft made the switch too. | ||
57 | <Bagder> well, ignoring lines like that would be dead simple to add | ||
58 | <dwihno> Bagder: Winamp store song information (length) every other line... | ||
59 | <Bagder> oh | ||
60 | <g003y> yeah | ||
61 | <g003y> sometimes I really hate the way they do things. | ||
62 | <dwihno> Is there a battery meter available yet? :) | ||
63 | <g003y> nope :( | ||
64 | <dwihno> The scroller is way cool btw... Should be seamless though | ||
65 | <Bagder> that's a whole can of worms as they say | ||
66 | <g003y> yeah I got the scroller api displaying the filename across the screen | ||
67 | <g003y> at least until you dump out of that mode back to the browse mode :D | ||
68 | <dwihno> :-) | ||
69 | <Bagder> cool | ||
70 | <g003y> I almost think ppl should be able to select/build in code for parsing their style mp3 naming, but that might be a beast nobody wants to cut loose | ||
71 | <Bagder> I'm gonna take a stab at that soonish | ||
72 | <Bagder> shortening the names on screen | ||
73 | <dwihno> hmm | ||
74 | <g003y> hmmm | ||
75 | <g003y> we should share notes :D | ||
76 | <Bagder> yeah | ||
77 | <dwihno> I always name mine XX. YYYYYYYYY (ZZZZ).mp3 | ||
78 | <dwihno> X = track number | ||
79 | <dwihno> Y = file name | ||
80 | <dwihno> Z = remix notes | ||
81 | <dwihno> Artist - Album (Year) | ||
82 | <dwihno> That's how I name the dirs | ||
83 | <g003y> I think that is fairly common | ||
84 | <g003y> it could be just a small handful defintions of formats that ppl could choose from with a sensible default just in case. | ||
85 | <dwihno> Does the current rockbox have any way of showing song length information? | ||
86 | <dwihno> Compared to the archos firmware, that is | ||
87 | <Bagder> it estimates the length for non VBRs | ||
88 | <Bagder> that's all so far | ||
89 | <g003y> estimates based on header info correct? | ||
90 | <Bagder> yeps | ||
91 | <g003y> but isn't that pretty much exact? | ||
92 | <Bagder> it is | ||
93 | <Bagder> should be at least | ||
94 | <g003y> ahhh... | ||
95 | <g003y> gotcha | ||
96 | <Bagder> it uses integer math too which might make it loose some precision | ||
97 | <Bagder> I haven't checked that closely | ||
98 | <g003y> you're probably right | ||
99 | <g003y> whats the problem with time display on vbrs? | ||
100 | <Bagder> we need to read the whole file to get the length | ||
101 | <Bagder> and it kind of sucks | ||
102 | <dwihno> Is there a quick way to do VBR estimation? | ||
103 | <dwihno> erhm | ||
104 | <g003y> I'd say that sucks | ||
105 | <dwihno> that is sucky | ||
106 | <g003y> I did not realize vbr sucked that way | ||
107 | <dwihno> As long as CBR's are OK ;) | ||
108 | <g003y> ha.... | ||
109 | <g003y> I'm torn between CBR and VBRs with r3mix options on lame. | ||
110 | <dwihno> Hey, what is displayed when songs are played? | ||
111 | <g003y> id3 info with the current cvs tree | ||
112 | <g003y> lcd_puts(0, 0, mp3.artist?mp3.artist:"<no artist>"); | ||
113 | <g003y> lcd_puts(0, 1, mp3.title?mp3.title:"<no title>"); | ||
114 | <g003y> there ya go :D | ||
115 | <dwihno> oww | ||
116 | <dwihno> Doesn't it handle non-tagged files?! :( | ||
117 | <Bagder> you mean id3 info without id3? ;-) | ||
118 | <dwihno> hehehe | ||
119 | <g003y> hehehehehehehe | ||
120 | <dwihno> mr. funny-ass pants ;) | ||
121 | <g003y> I've got alternatives going on my local copy | ||
122 | <g003y> so I'm sure it will be handled eventually | ||
123 | <g003y> at least before the recorder version comes out :D | ||
124 | <dwihno> cool | ||
125 | <Bagder> haha | ||
126 | * Bagder puts the "in charge of the while-playing-song display" sticker on g003y | ||
127 | <g003y> gagagagagagagagagag | ||
128 | <g003y> hey that isn't coming off! | ||
129 | <g003y> only problem is I don't have everything quite setup right here. I need to get an account and a real cvs login for the project | ||
130 | <Bagder> mail your sf account user name to Björn | ||
131 | <g003y> I will though... I'd really like to contribute my code | ||
132 | <g003y> oh... I've got to get an sf account as well :D | ||
133 | <Bagder> you can always start with mailing diffs | ||
134 | <g003y> tru | ||
135 | <g003y> e | ||
136 | <g003y> I've just been syncing anon and patching my changes | ||
137 | <g003y> it's not much so far, but I should get setup properly | ||
138 | <g003y> I still can't believe how advanced the apis on the firmware are already | ||
139 | <Bagder> it's pretty cool indeed | ||
140 | <g003y> alrighty guys. like Bagder I have to code boring stuff in a few hours at my day job. So I think some sleep is in order for me. | ||
141 | <Bagder> night g003y | ||
142 | <g003y> night | ||
143 | <-- g003y (~foo@m198-187.dsl.rawbw.com) has left #rockbox | ||
144 | <Bagder> it seems as if Zagor has problems with the new hardware... it should've been up by now | ||
145 | <-- gregh has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | ||
146 | <Bagder> cpu MHz : 1600.072 | ||
147 | <dwihno> [~] cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep MHz | ||
148 | <dwihno> cpu MHz : 232.674 | ||
149 | <dwihno> cpu MHz : 232.674 | ||
150 | <dwihno> There you got it | ||
151 | <dwihno> dual süstëëm | ||
152 | <dwihno> Dual is sleek, sexy and pr0no! :) | ||
153 | <Bagder> dual 1600 | ||
154 | <Bagder> cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz | ||
155 | <Bagder> cpu MHz : 1600.072 | ||
156 | <Bagder> cpu MHz : 1600.072 | ||
157 | <dwihno> you evil dude! | ||
158 | <dwihno> :) | ||
159 | <Bagder> its the new hardware that the rockbox site runs on | ||
160 | <dwihno> cool stuff | ||
161 | <dwihno> who pays the hw? | ||
162 | <Bagder> Contactor | ||
163 | <Bagder> the company I, Björn and Linus work for | ||
164 | <dwihno> Hire me :) | ||
165 | <dwihno> <Bagder> sure | ||
166 | <dwihno> Yay ;D | ||
167 | <Bagder> hehe | ||
168 | <dwihno> Why not? :) | ||
169 | <Bagder> I wish we could, but the market is a bit rough atm | ||
170 | <dwihno> I know | ||
171 | <dwihno> Are your employers aware of you spending a lot of time on the Rockbox project? | ||
172 | <Bagder> no :-) | ||
173 | <Bagder> I won't tell them | ||
174 | <Bagder> but then I must do my proper work properly anyway | ||
175 | <dwihno> Yeah | ||
176 | <dwihno> My recorder sometimes skips the initial 200 msecs of a song... | ||
177 | <Bagder> exactly 200? | ||
178 | <dwihno> Roughly | ||
179 | <dwihno> (with the stock firmware, that is) | ||
180 | <dwihno> Do you experience that on the player models? | ||
181 | <dwihno> (w, w/o rockbox) | ||
182 | <Bagder> no idea | ||
183 | --> Zagor (~bjst@mimas.contactor.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
184 | <Bagder> hey ho | ||
185 | <Zagor> hi. back at last | ||
186 | <dwihno> 10:04 < Zagor> see you soon | ||
187 | <dwihno> ;) | ||
188 | <Zagor> yeah, well that's pc hardware for you... | ||
189 | <Zagor> the motherboard has two IDE LED connectors | ||
190 | <Zagor> if you connect the "wrong" one, the keyboard stops working... | ||
191 | <Zagor> that one took me a while to figure out... | ||
192 | <dwihno> Intel inside, Zagor outside | ||
193 | <Zagor> so, what have you guys been up to this morning? | ||
194 | <dwihno> We've been talking about how rockbox handles tags when the files do not have id3 tags :) | ||
195 | <Bagder> g00ey was around and told us he's done some improvements on the software for what to show while a track is playing | ||
196 | <Bagder> g003y | ||
197 | <Zagor> ok, did we get the code? | ||
198 | <dwihno> And I thought the scroller would be seamless | ||
199 | <Zagor> seamless? | ||
200 | <Bagder> Zagor: no, but he'll return | ||
201 | <Zagor> dwihno: what do you mean seamless? | ||
202 | <dwihno> I'll show | ||
203 | <dwihno> Zagor had a little lamb.mp3 | ||
204 | <dwihno> or had a little lamb.mp3 | ||
205 | <dwihno> a little lamb.mp3 | ||
206 | <dwihno> lamb.mp3 | ||
207 | <dwihno> This is how it is now | ||
208 | <dwihno> Zagor had a little lamb.mp3 | ||
209 | <dwihno> or had a little lamb.mp3 | ||
210 | <Zagor> not any more | ||
211 | <dwihno> a little lamb.mp3 Zagor | ||
212 | <dwihno> lamb.mp3 Zagor had a littl | ||
213 | <dwihno> This is what it might be like :) | ||
214 | <Zagor> you run old code | ||
215 | <Zagor> it is seamless now | ||
216 | <dwihno> mkay | ||
217 | <Bagder> upgrade! ;-) | ||
218 | <dwihno> OLD?! | ||
219 | <dwihno> It's 24 hours old man! :) | ||
220 | <dwihno> Or perhaps 48 | ||
221 | <Zagor> yeah, i fixed that last night | ||
222 | <Bagder> hehe | ||
223 | <Zagor> that's stone-age code! :) | ||
224 | <dwihno> :-) | ||
225 | <dwihno> Did you take a peek at the LCD glitch? | ||
226 | <Zagor> umm, remind me please? | ||
227 | <dwihno> When scrolling across pages, the LCD did glitch | ||
228 | <dwihno> Like old un-doublebuffered stuff :) | ||
229 | <dwihno> Where is your lamb btw? | ||
230 | <Zagor> ah, well we don't know why that happens. and yes, it is single buffered. we don't have two. | ||
231 | <Zagor> lamb? | ||
232 | <dwihno> yeah | ||
233 | <dwihno> http://www.jupither.net/dw/ <-- like that, on that page ;) | ||
234 | <Bagder> Zagor: you tried the id3 info Magnus mention on the list? | ||
235 | <Bagder> id3 info bug | ||
236 | <Zagor> i haven't read my mail yet, doing it now | ||
237 | <Bagder> oh | ||
238 | <dwihno> R-r-r-roockboooox! | ||
239 | <dwihno> We need an anthem! | ||
240 | <Bagder> yeah, the boot song! ;-) | ||
241 | <Zagor> brb | ||
242 | <-- Zagor has quit ("Client Exiting") | ||
243 | --> Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
244 | <dwihno> Bagder: you got it! :) | ||
245 | <dwihno> The Rockbox-choir and the London philharmonic orchestra ,D | ||
246 | <Bagder> haahah | ||
247 | <dwihno> Maybe I can pull a few strings ;) | ||
248 | <dwihno> Get it? | ||
249 | <dwihno> Strings :) | ||
250 | <dwihno> *moo haw haw* | ||
251 | <Bagder> mr joker ;-) | ||
252 | <dwihno> :) | ||
253 | <Bagder> wooo, project activity stats on freshmeat | ||
254 | <Zagor> really | ||
255 | <Bagder> I meant graphs | ||
256 | <Zagor> "Rating: 8.54/10.00 (1 vote)" | ||
257 | <Zagor> how can one vote give average 8.54? | ||
258 | <Bagder> hehe | ||
259 | <dwihno> Magic math (tm) | ||
260 | <Bagder> hey, I'm that single voter | ||
261 | <Bagder> on rockbox | ||
262 | <Zagor> this virus epidemic is getting seriously annoying | ||
263 | <Bagder> Total (weighted) 8.54/10.00 | ||
264 | <Bagder> "weighted" is the keyword I gues | ||
265 | <Bagder> guess | ||
266 | <Bagder> Zagor: yes, but cut down the allowed size and it won't be as troublesome | ||
267 | <Zagor> good point. 50k max now | ||
268 | <Bagder> Klez virus mails are always >100K, at least those hundreds that I've got | ||
269 | <Zagor> min plugin_teamkill funkar iaf, ser jag | ||
270 | <Zagor> uh, wrong channel :( | ||
271 | --> jedix (~liam@fwott1-1.cis.ec.gc.ca) has joined #rockbox | ||
272 | <Bagder> hey jedix | ||
273 | <jedix> hey | ||
274 | * dwihno is rather happy now | ||
275 | <dwihno> 4 of 5 projects are in the "no work to do" area of my list :D | ||
276 | <Bagder> and the fifth is "Implement asteroids on Rockbox" ? | ||
277 | <Bagder> :-P | ||
278 | <dwihno> hehe | ||
279 | <dwihno> not really | ||
280 | <Bagder> darn | ||
281 | <dwihno> I have no computer to work on sparetime projectgs | ||
282 | <dwihno> Which is rather nasty | ||
283 | <dwihno> I mean, I'm actually getting a tan! :( | ||
284 | <Bagder> sun gives you cancer | ||
285 | <dwihno> I know! I need some way to stay indoors! | ||
286 | <Bagder> compile, link, upload, flash, run, watch problem, edit, save => LOOP | ||
287 | <Bagder> (my whole day in summary) | ||
288 | --> liam_ (~liam@fwott1-1.cis.ec.gc.ca) has joined #rockbox | ||
289 | --- liam_ is now known as jedix` | ||
290 | <dwihno> flash? | ||
291 | <Bagder> flash rom | ||
292 | <dwihno> mkay | ||
293 | <Bagder> I don't even have a debugger on my darned target | ||
294 | <Bagder> have to fill my code with printf() | ||
295 | <dwihno> What is the target hardware? | ||
296 | <Bagder> strongarm 1110 | ||
297 | <dwihno> whoa | ||
298 | <Bagder> no, its no whoa ;-) | ||
299 | <dwihno> jees, it iis | ||
300 | <jedix`> timeout jedix | ||
301 | <-- jedix has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | ||
302 | --- jedix` is now known as JediX | ||
303 | <JediX> whats new? | ||
304 | --- JediX is now known as jedix | ||
305 | <Bagder> not very much | ||
306 | --- dwihno is now known as dw|gone | ||
307 | <Zagor> fixing randomize menu option now | ||
308 | <Bagder> neat | ||
309 | <dw|gone> NEATO ZAGOR! All your box are belong to rock! | ||
310 | <dw|gone> I'm off. Have a nice evening and try to stay indoors - the sun will cause cancer! | ||
311 | <Bagder> I'd suggest you call it "shuffle" and not random | ||
312 | <Zagor> good idea | ||
313 | <Zagor> where do I find the currently loaded list? | ||
314 | <Bagder> it's a global struct in playlist.c | ||
315 | <Zagor> ok | ||
316 | * Zagor wants current_tick in simulator... :) | ||
317 | <Zagor> i'll just use time() instead | ||
318 | <Zagor> for seed | ||
319 | <Bagder> it doesn't really matter | ||
320 | <Bagder> just increase the current | ||
321 | <Bagder> or something | ||
322 | <Zagor> i'll use the tick. otherwise it'll be the same every first time after boot | ||
323 | <Bagder> right | ||
324 | <Zagor> oops, core in playlist | ||
325 | <Zagor> after 1002 lines | ||
326 | <Bagder> ah | ||
327 | <Bagder> there's a 1000 max | ||
328 | <Zagor> oh | ||
329 | <Zagor> i thought it was 10000 ? | ||
330 | <Bagder> without any checks for it ;-) | ||
331 | <Bagder> yeah, but I just used one | ||
332 | <Bagder> raise it now | ||
333 | <Zagor> will do | ||
334 | <Zagor> adding check, too :) | ||
335 | <Bagder> wooo | ||
336 | <Zagor> what's index_array used for? I don't see it | ||
337 | <Bagder> uh, remove ;-) | ||
338 | <Zagor> ok | ||
339 | <jedix> Zagor: why did you have to rewrite my scroll stuff? | ||
340 | <Zagor> I chose a slightly different approach, that's all | ||
341 | <Zagor> there was nothing wrong with your code | ||
342 | <Zagor> to be able to do the new type of scroll, I sprintf the text into a string and then puts the string. | ||
343 | <Zagor> for the new shuffle to be useful, we need a "next tracj" button | ||
344 | <Zagor> track | ||
345 | <Bagder> we could use that for playlist without shuffle too ;-) | ||
346 | <Zagor> yep | ||
347 | <Zagor> too bad we are out of buttons :) | ||
348 | <Bagder> well | ||
349 | <Bagder> we should have a special "screen" for showing while playing a track, right? I mean if we're not browsing the tree? | ||
350 | <Zagor> yes we should. so you could go in and out between the browser and this screen | ||
351 | <Bagder> right | ||
352 | <Zagor> i.e. we need some UI work | ||
353 | <Zagor> might want to save that for 1.2 though | ||
354 | <Bagder> fair enough | ||
355 | <Bagder> and if we play a track and idle in the tree browser, we could timeout back to the show-track-screen | ||
356 | <Bagder> which I believe the archos firmware does | ||
357 | <Zagor> we could, but I'm not sure I'd want it to. definitely a configurable option :) | ||
358 | <Bagder> yes | ||
359 | <Bagder> the play-screen will be useful since it'll give more control of back/skip and volume up/down | ||
360 | <Bagder> which isn't as easily available when tree browsing | ||
361 | <Zagor> exactly | ||
362 | <-- jb1081 has quit ("[x]chat") | ||
363 | --> jb1081 (~jb1081@lime.ircam.fr) has joined #rockbox | ||
364 | <Bagder> the shuffle menu should probably say something if no playlist was loaded | ||
365 | <Zagor> right | ||
366 | <Bagder> I suspect people will do that | ||
367 | <Bagder> I wonder how fast the playlist loader is on target | ||
368 | <Bagder> I mean, compared to the original archos one | ||
369 | <Zagor> i'd suspect somewhere in the order of 100 times faster :) | ||
370 | <Bagder> it would be really cool | ||
371 | --> edx (OKE60@pD9EAB848.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #rockbox | ||
372 | <edx> hi | ||
373 | <Bagder> hi! | ||
374 | <edx> hmm... (maybe a stupid question... but..) would it be possible to write a keybard driver for the jukebox so we can plug in a usb keyboard :? | ||
375 | <Bagder> no | ||
376 | <edx> too sad.. why not? | ||
377 | <Bagder> we can't use the USB for anything like that | ||
378 | <edx> for what reason? | ||
379 | <Bagder> it's out of reach | ||
380 | <edx> damn. | ||
381 | <edx> like a linux console on the recorder would rock ;) | ||
382 | * Bagder puts a curl release together | ||
383 | <Zagor> we can connect a keyboard to the remote control port | ||
384 | <edx> hmm on the remote port... sounds good... :) | ||
385 | <edx> Then I would have to build my own remote port.. but for a keyboard - no problem :) | ||
386 | <Zagor> you need to build a serial converter for the keyboard, but the rest should be simple | ||
387 | <edx> there are serial converter chips, right? (i dont have much knowledge about hardware unfortunately) | ||
388 | <Zagor> yup. just like the gdb cable | ||
389 | <Zagor> tested now. my 4500 line file takes about 5-6 seconds to load | ||
390 | <Bagder> that's just totally awesome | ||
391 | <Zagor> indeed | ||
392 | <Zagor> but it'll be faster with some simple adjustments to playlist.c | ||
393 | <Bagder> like what? | ||
394 | <Zagor> it should be loading 512-byte blocks, not 255 | ||
395 | --> elinenbe (trilluser@bgp01080511bgs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) has joined #rockbox | ||
396 | <Bagder> ah right | ||
397 | <Zagor> fixing... | ||
398 | <elinenbe> 'ello | ||
399 | <edx> lol ... now it takes like 5 secs for a 30 song playlist :P | ||
400 | <edx> hi | ||
401 | <Bagder> yeah, the stock firmware is shockingly slow at loading playlists | ||
402 | <elinenbe> painfully slow. | ||
403 | <elinenbe> so slow -- I usually take a dump, shower, and shave before it loads my 3 song playlist. | ||
404 | <Zagor> also, we should accept both / and \ as separators. i suspect winamp creates files with \ | ||
405 | <Bagder> elinenbe: Zagor just tested, we load a 4500 song playlist in 5-6 seconds | ||
406 | <elinenbe> that is great. | ||
407 | <elinenbe> we are now talking full disk shuffle? | ||
408 | <Zagor> yes we are | ||
409 | <Bagder> yeah | ||
410 | <Bagder> Zagor: we might get problems with paths too when we talk about files created by external programs | ||
411 | <Zagor> yep. C:\my music\... | ||
412 | <Zagor> :) | ||
413 | <Bagder> yah | ||
414 | <elinenbe> I am just wondering... what is the status on playing sound on the AJBR | ||
415 | <Zagor> Linus is working on that | ||
416 | <Bagder> we should include Linus in our prayers ;-) | ||
417 | --> ironi (ironi@as2-5-7.j.bonet.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
418 | <elinenbe> I was wondering... does anyone else ever get the reversed screen on the recorder? | ||
419 | <Bagder> hey ironi | ||
420 | <Bagder> reversed screen? | ||
421 | <elinenbe> even the rockbox bmp is reversed | ||
422 | <ironi> Bagder: ? | ||
423 | <ironi> hey Bagder | ||
424 | <edx> huhu? | ||
425 | <Bagder> gosh | ||
426 | <ironi> Bagder: do u use emacs a lot? | ||
427 | <elinenbe> where everything is flipped. | ||
428 | <Bagder> ironi: nah, only 10-12 hours a day ;-P | ||
429 | <ironi> Bagder: my irc script supports emacs commands | ||
430 | <elinenbe> like you are looking at a mirror image of the screnn. | ||
431 | <ironi> isnt that totally elite | ||
432 | <ironi> =) | ||
433 | <Bagder> elinenbe: and that happens every now or then or can you repeat it on demand? | ||
434 | <elinenbe> no, happens every now and then. | ||
435 | <elinenbe> not only is the screen mirrored, but it is offset about 16 pixels. | ||
436 | <Bagder> it sounds if there's some lcd init we dont do | ||
437 | <elinenbe> to the right. | ||
438 | <elinenbe> no... that happens with the archos fimrware too. | ||
439 | <Bagder> ah | ||
440 | <elinenbe> on the recorder. | ||
441 | <Bagder> then it might be a defect hardware perhaps | ||
442 | <edx> hm then thats a hardware bug (?) | ||
443 | <elinenbe> yeah I dont know if anyone else ever gets that. | ||
444 | <edx> i have a recorder. never ever got that. | ||
445 | <Bagder> I've never seen it either | ||
446 | <ironi> i have a player, and I lvoe the double size text | ||
447 | <Bagder> hehe | ||
448 | <ironi> the browsing and the scrolling are so FAST | ||
449 | <ironi> i just love this | ||
450 | <edx> hehe | ||
451 | <ironi> I want to contribute som uch | ||
452 | <elinenbe> is the double size text an option on the player rockbox? | ||
453 | <Zagor> you have already: the web site! | ||
454 | <ironi> but there is still an error with how directories are displayed, though. | ||
455 | <ironi> at least for me | ||
456 | <Bagder> elinenbe: yeps | ||
457 | <Zagor> elinenbe: the new models use it as logo | ||
458 | <elinenbe> nice :) | ||
459 | <Zagor> ironi: what error is that? | ||
460 | <ironi> Zagor: well let me try to explain | ||
461 | <elinenbe> the scrolling through a directory is quite slow on the recorder -- and there is quite a bit of flicker. | ||
462 | <ironi> my dir that is called F-J | ||
463 | <Zagor> elinenbe: yes, we're not sure why | ||
464 | <ironi> is displayed as F-J1 q|| r | ||
465 | <Zagor> ironi: which version is this? | ||
466 | <ironi> but only whgen scrolling down | ||
467 | <ironi> if i go down and go back up its F-J | ||
468 | <ironi> Zagor: the latest? | ||
469 | <ironi> i got it last night | ||
470 | <Bagder> this morning? | ||
471 | <elinenbe> I was wondering -- does this sound like something that is a good idea: instead of scrolling only the title that the cursor is on, scroll everything on the current screen that is wider then the screen? | ||
472 | <ironi> no last night | ||
473 | <ironi> lemme get this mornings | ||
474 | <Bagder> ironi: please do | ||
475 | <ironi> an optional go to usb mode yes/no would be pleasant | ||
476 | <ironi> when plugging it in | ||
477 | <Zagor> elinenbe: well, i have to ask "why?" :) | ||
478 | <ironi> that would be terribly confusing on fast scroll | ||
479 | <elinenbe> well, lets say you have 10 songs named "Red Hot Chili Peppers - Songname 1 | ||
480 | <Zagor> hmm, maybe we should do the vertical recorder scroll using bitmap instead redrawing the chars | ||
481 | <elinenbe> "Red Hot Chili Peppers - Songname 2 | ||
482 | <elinenbe> etc... | ||
483 | <ironi> hm | ||
484 | <Bagder> Zagor: that's a good idea | ||
485 | <Zagor> elinenbe: ah, you mean scroll all lines and not just one? | ||
486 | <elinenbe> and you want to play a certain one. | ||
487 | <ironi> im thinking of something | ||
488 | <elinenbe> yes. | ||
489 | <ironi> that moving through a dir in the player should give movement on every push | ||
490 | <Zagor> we could try | ||
491 | <elinenbe> if it were a bitmap scroll, then couldn't you easily do pixel by pixel? | ||
492 | <Zagor> elinenbe: yes we could | ||
493 | <ironi> i.e. not just moving the arrow down if its on top when scrolling down the first one | ||
494 | <ironi> it confuses me totally | ||
495 | <Zagor> ironi: hehe. well yes there is lots of UI work left :) | ||
496 | <Zagor> i have to go now, they're closing the office! | ||
497 | <ironi> Zagor: can i be the UI general, please please please | ||
498 | <Zagor> see you tomorrow, everyone | ||
499 | <ironi> =) | ||
500 | <ironi> ok so lets see the newset build | ||
501 | <ironi> same error | ||
502 | * Bagder hands ironi the UI boss hat | ||
503 | <ironi> hehe | ||
504 | <ironi> i wan tso much to be in the credz =) | ||
505 | <ironi> *waNNABE* | ||
506 | <ironi> anyway | ||
507 | <Zagor> we'll add you for the web site | ||
508 | <ironi> hehe cool =) | ||
509 | <ironi> anyway | ||
510 | <ironi> the browsing should have a slight delay | ||
511 | <Zagor> gotta run, bye | ||
512 | <-- Zagor has quit ("Client Exiting") | ||
513 | <elinenbe> what do you mean by the browsing should have a slight delay? | ||
514 | <elinenbe> later. | ||
515 | <ironi> cause now when i push i scroll by 3 rows like nothing | ||
516 | <ironi> with a 2-row display this is very annoying | ||
517 | <Bagder> right | ||
518 | <Bagder> the buttons are a bit sensitive | ||
519 | <ironi> yeahm, thats the least you could say | ||
520 | <ironi> the scrolling should be settable from 1-10 | ||
521 | <ironi> everything over 15 is totally underadable, isnt it | ||
522 | <Bagder> ...not on the recorder ;-) | ||
523 | <edx> hehe ;) | ||
524 | <ironi> the menu button should have like a 0.3 second delay when pushed | ||
525 | <ironi> i.e. you need to hold it for that time | ||
526 | * edx looks down to his recorder and smiles.. | ||
527 | <ironi> to activate | ||
528 | <elinenbe> I like the recorder at 25 | ||
529 | <ironi> oh really? ok. well 5 is neat fo rme | ||
530 | <ironi> 6 manybe | ||
531 | <elinenbe> is there any saving of values to the disk yet? | ||
532 | <Bagder> no | ||
533 | <ironi> oh really | ||
534 | <ironi> well how will this be saved? | ||
535 | <elinenbe> how si that going to be handled? | ||
536 | <ironi> just a textfile | ||
537 | <ironi> config file | ||
538 | <ironi> is it possible to implement that | ||
539 | <Bagder> sure | ||
540 | <ironi> cause hten we could move on and make a filehandler | ||
541 | <elinenbe> in an unused sector -- like the default firmware does it? | ||
542 | <ironi> that can make dirs, copy, delete | ||
543 | <ironi> =))) | ||
544 | <ironi> hehe maybe a bit of an overkill | ||
545 | <elinenbe> I like the idea of an ascii config file. | ||
546 | <ironi> i would love to be able to read txt-files | ||
547 | <ironi> lovely to make notes for grocery shopping hah | ||
548 | <Bagder> contribution time! | ||
549 | <ironi> it sahould be possible to make a game for the player too | ||
550 | <ironi> am i wqrong or is the disk read alot shorter with rockbox firmware? | ||
551 | <ironi> when entering new dirs | ||
552 | <Bagder> dunno | ||
553 | <Bagder> gotta run, see ya tomorrow | ||
554 | <ironi> have you ever played arkanoid? | ||
555 | <elinenbe> later. | ||
556 | <elinenbe> go home. | ||
557 | <-- Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) has left #rockbox | ||
558 | <ironi> that would be able to do on the player | ||
559 | <ironi> =) | ||
560 | <ironi> a vertical arcanoid | ||
561 | <elinenbe> that would be nice. | ||
562 | <ironi> elinenbe: do you know how to set it up to be able to compile everyitng in windows? | ||
563 | <elinenbe> no. I was messing around with it. | ||
564 | <elinenbe> but I guess over the last few days, a bunch has been done to it. | ||
565 | <ironi> ok | ||
566 | <elinenbe> you need to use nmake. | ||
567 | <ironi> i think i will do linux trough vmware maybe | ||
568 | <ironi> kinda easier | ||
569 | <elinenbe> follow the directions on the web page -- they are easy to follow. | ||
570 | <ironi> im more used to compile in linux so ill jsut stick to that | ||
571 | <ironi> and play around with vmware at the same time hehe | ||
572 | --- edx is now known as edx|homework | ||
573 | <-- ironi has quit (" <k!15b8>") | ||
574 | <-- jedix has quit ("brb") | ||
575 | --> jedix (~liam@fwott1-1.cis.ec.gc.ca) has joined #rockbox | ||
576 | <elinenbe> there is no auto-off in the AJBR Rockbox. | ||
577 | --- WetBed is now known as Wettoad | ||
578 | <elinenbe> of course you know that already... | ||
579 | <-- edx|homework has quit ("be right back") | ||
580 | --> edx (OKE60@pD9EAB848.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #rockbox | ||
581 | --- edx is now known as edx|studying | ||
582 | <edx|studying> hmmm does the recorder version play songs yet? | ||
583 | --> plmirc (xxxx@Mix-Puteaux-104-1-73.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #rockbox | ||
584 | <plmirc> HI at All ! | ||
585 | <plmirc> well... :-| | ||
586 | <edx|studying> yo | ||
587 | --- edx|studying is now known as edx | ||
588 | <plmirc> Bye at all... | ||
589 | <edx> bye | ||
590 | <plmirc> :) | ||
591 | <edx> lol | ||
592 | <-- plmirc (xxxx@Mix-Puteaux-104-1-73.abo.wanadoo.fr) has left #rockbox | ||
593 | <PsycoXul> heh | ||
594 | <-- jedix has quit ("gone") | ||
595 | --> Zagor (~bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
596 | <edx> rehi ;) | ||
597 | <Zagor> hi | ||
598 | <edx> Zagor: does the playback work on the recorder? | ||
599 | <Zagor> not yet | ||
600 | <edx> k | ||
601 | <edx> (didnt work for me.. that's why i'm asking) | ||
602 | <edx> i modified the makefile so it compiles on windows (but it wont compile on linux with that makefile anymore..) | ||
603 | <edx> we gotta make a makefile for windows & linux | ||
604 | <edx> (not now.. sometime later.. ;) ) | ||
605 | <Zagor> what did you change? | ||
606 | <edx> i removed the dependency stuff | ||
607 | <Zagor> oh... | ||
608 | <edx> (scripting does not work in windows..) | ||
609 | <edx> no sh.exe | ||
610 | <Zagor> i know | ||
611 | <edx> at least i get a compiled file that actually works... | ||
612 | <edx> we could also create a makefile.win32 or something (for win32 users who want to compile the firmware..) | ||
613 | <Zagor> yes | ||
614 | <edx> maybe that will be easier than having a linwin file... | ||
615 | <edx> also, i think the if statements dont work under windows. | ||
616 | <edx> (i had to remove them to get the recorder code compiled..) | ||
617 | <Zagor> are you using nmake? | ||
618 | <edx> no | ||
619 | <edx> i use the make that comes with the GNUSH tool chain | ||
620 | <edx> nmake really is a whole different story | ||
621 | <Zagor> what does "make --version" report? | ||
622 | <edx> GNU Make version 3.78.1, by Richard Stallman and Roland McGrath. | ||
623 | <edx> Built for Windows32 | ||
624 | <Zagor> what does it say when you have the if lines? | ||
625 | <edx> nothing, it just does not do what inside the if lines... | ||
626 | <edx> (though it should) | ||
627 | <edx> what = what is | ||
628 | <Zagor> ok | ||
629 | <edx> how far is rolo btw (is it even developed at the moment?) | ||
630 | <Zagor> no, we haven't started with it yet. | ||
631 | <edx> ok... because if we had that I could at least put rockbox on there to play (and still listen to music heheh) | ||
632 | <edx> right now rolo will play a pretty important role, specially for those people who are unsure whether to use rockbox or the archos mod | ||
633 | <Zagor> i know, i want rolo too. it's just we don't have unlimited manpower :) | ||
634 | <edx> true. | ||
635 | <edx> If I could i'd help but I guess I have to little low-level experience... | ||
636 | <edx> the file must be read to ram and then.. the instruction pointer set to that location (correct me if i am totally wrong) | ||
637 | <Zagor> your helping very much already, with the win32 stuff | ||
638 | <Zagor> yes, but there are "a few" other things too :) | ||
639 | <edx> (yea.. must be the correct place in ram etc..) | ||
640 | <edx> and the rolo must be deleted out of ram i guess (because the archos mod wants to use all of the ram and is designed for that i guess) | ||
641 | <edx> anyways.. nice revery hehe | ||
642 | <Zagor> yes, rolo will be overwritten by the mod | ||
643 | <edx> ok | ||
644 | <edx> i gotta get some sleep... last class test for this school year tomorrow :D | ||
645 | <edx> cya all | ||
646 | <Zagor> bye | ||
647 | <-- edx has quit ("good night") | ||
648 | <PsycoXul> heh | ||
649 | <PsycoXul> so who thinks they might want to get rolo rolling? | ||
650 | --> g003y (~foo@m198-187.dsl.rawbw.com) has joined #rockbox | ||
651 | <g003y> heya all | ||
652 | <PsycoXul> hi | ||
653 | --> Zagor_ (~bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
654 | <-- Zagor has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | ||
655 | --- Zagor_ is now known as Zagor | ||
656 | <g003y> I always have to go back to that dang nick reference :D | ||
657 | <Zagor> hehe | ||
658 | <g003y> you guys on the other side of the pond are still up? | ||
659 | <Zagor> I'd like to use "Bjorn", but unfortunately it's registered to someone else | ||
660 | <Zagor> yeah, it's 22:55 here | ||
661 | <g003y> yeah I just randomly typed g003y into trillian :D | ||
662 | <Zagor> hehe | ||
663 | <g003y> Zagor - Bagder told me to get an SF account setup and talk to you about getting ssh cvs access. | ||
664 | <g003y> you the man for that ? | ||
665 | <Zagor> yep | ||
666 | <g003y> cool | ||
667 | <g003y> I've been working on some stuff locally | ||
668 | <Zagor> yeah? | ||
669 | <g003y> playing around with displaying filenames and such as songs play | ||
670 | <g003y> getting my head around the api | ||
671 | <g003y> more apps stuff | ||
672 | <Zagor> ok, nice | ||
673 | <g003y> I'm not a hardware guy like all yousese :D. But I know C and applications :D | ||
674 | <g003y> anyway I was looking at adding a real primitive display format | ||
675 | <g003y> right now I can compile with support for scrolling the filename or using the current behavior | ||
676 | <g003y> it actually works nicely thanks to those wonderful scrolling apis :D | ||
677 | <Zagor> :) | ||
678 | <g003y> so I was thinking of having just a couple of different things we can support | ||
679 | <g003y> with playing file display | ||
680 | <Zagor> sure | ||
681 | <g003y> id3 info being one | ||
682 | <g003y> scrolling filename being another | ||
683 | <g003y> but potentially a way to instruct the play how to disect your filename/directory structure to build id3 like information on the screen | ||
684 | <g003y> play == player | ||
685 | <Zagor> yes, that'd be good | ||
686 | <g003y> but the real question right now is.... | ||
687 | <g003y> should I make it a compiled in option or something that could be configured through settings? | ||
688 | <Zagor> settings, definitely | ||
689 | <g003y> ok cool. | ||
690 | <g003y> that is how I would prefer it | ||
691 | <g003y> anyway I will get an sf account email ya | ||
692 | <Zagor> ok | ||
693 | <g003y> BTW - your cross compiler buld instructions worked first shot for me. | ||
694 | <Zagor> nice! | ||
695 | <g003y> took me about 5 minutes to get up and running | ||
696 | <g003y> I'm on win32 using cygwin as well | ||
697 | <g003y> one other question for you. Whats the deal with the battery display? I've only started logging recently and haven't dug through all the old logs yet | ||
698 | <Zagor> we have no battery display yet | ||
699 | <g003y> I noticed :D | ||
700 | <g003y> but is it an unknown thing | ||
701 | <Zagor> measuring battery capacity is a whole science in itself | ||
702 | <g003y> ahhh | ||
703 | <Zagor> so we're putting that off a bit until the basic stuff works | ||
704 | <g003y> cool | ||
705 | <elinenbe> g003y: how do you use the make files in win32? | ||
706 | <g003y> I do everything through the bash shell cygwin provides | ||
707 | <g003y> so technically I use the *nix like make | ||
708 | <g003y> but if you're attempting the uisimulator compile then you need to use nmake | ||
709 | <g003y> from a dos window | ||
710 | <elinenbe> oh -- how does that work? I am not familiar with the bash shell that comew with cygwin | ||
711 | <elinenbe> did you download the source tarball or use wincvs | ||
712 | <g003y> are you just trying to get the firmware configured? | ||
713 | <g003y> I sync to current with wincvs | ||
714 | <g003y> but I started with the tarballs | ||
715 | <elinenbe> well, I want to be able to compile the firmware. | ||
716 | <g003y> ok | ||
717 | <g003y> cygwin gives you a little batch file you double click | ||
718 | <g003y> that gives you a shell right? That is bash | ||
719 | <g003y> from there you would build the cross compiler as Bjorn has put together on the website | ||
720 | <elinenbe> I know bash and linux | ||
721 | <g003y> I tried the GNU-SH toolkit, but it just wasn't cutting it for me | ||
722 | <g003y> ok good well cygwin gives you the same stuff basically | ||
723 | <elinenbe> I was just unfamiliar with the bash shell that is makes for windows. | ||
724 | <g003y> it's close, but not exactly the same | ||
725 | <g003y> just use the batch file they plop on the desktop and it will put you in your home directory | ||
726 | <g003y> from there it will feel more familiar | ||
727 | <elinenbe> ok | ||
728 | <g003y> setup all your normal include stuff and everything | ||
729 | <elinenbe> did you just follow the directions on the web page? | ||
730 | <g003y> then just do the configure & compile | ||
731 | <elinenbe> http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/sh-win/ | ||
732 | <g003y> yeah except | ||
733 | <g003y> no not that one | ||
734 | <g003y> I couldn't get compiles to work with that tool kit | ||
735 | <elinenbe> not what? | ||
736 | <elinenbe> oh, so what toolkit did you use? | ||
737 | <g003y> http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/cross-gcc.html | ||
738 | <g003y> I followed those directions | ||
739 | <g003y> inside of a cygwin win32 bash shell | ||
740 | <g003y> GNU-SH just wouldn't fly for me | ||
741 | <elinenbe> well, where did you dl the cygwin bash shell. | ||
742 | <elinenbe> ? | ||
743 | <g003y> http://www.cgywin.org/ | ||
744 | <g003y> just go for the installer | ||
745 | <elinenbe> ok. thanks so much. | ||
746 | <g003y> get the packages you need to get yourself started | ||
747 | <g003y> though you won't need newlib compiled in | ||
748 | <g003y> so you can drop that bit | ||
749 | <g003y> after cygwin does it's thing you will need to recompile gcc with the sh1 extensions | ||
750 | <elinenbe> the page you speak of is http://www.cygwin.com/ | ||
751 | <elinenbe> ok | ||
752 | <g003y> oh yeah d....o....t....com | ||
753 | <g003y> :D | ||
754 | <g003y> anyway you will need gcc to get to gcc 3.x with sh1 | ||
755 | <elinenbe> so, you just downloaded the gcc and installed as per insturction on http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/cross-gcc.html? | ||
756 | <g003y> yup | ||
757 | <g003y> minus newlib | ||
758 | <PsycoXul> hmm | ||
759 | <PsycoXul> why not newlib? | ||
760 | <Zagor> we aren't using it any more | ||
761 | <PsycoXul> ah | ||
762 | <PsycoXul> cool | ||
763 | <g003y> IDK - I saw on the mailing list not to use it | ||
764 | <Zagor> just a few header files are still needed | ||
765 | <g003y> there ya go :D | ||
766 | <elinenbe> ok -- great. Thanks so much. | ||
767 | <g003y> no prob | ||
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769 | <Zagor> hey bro | ||
770 | <Bagder> hey | ||
771 | <g003y> heh... so you guys are related? | ||
772 | <Zagor> yeah, we're brothers | ||
773 | <Zagor> the playlist loader reads around 1000 lines per second. that's not bad! | ||
774 | <g003y> thats pretty damn good | ||
775 | <Bagder> it's so darned cool | ||
776 | <Zagor> sure is | ||
777 | <Bagder> so the shuffle stuff works now? | ||
778 | <Zagor> umm, haven't tried it yet. the batteries in my player are empty (and the charger circuit is busted) | ||
779 | <Zagor> i have only tested on the recorder so far | ||
780 | <Zagor> it should go even faster on the player, since it's clocked faster | ||
781 | <Zagor> not very much, though | ||
782 | <Bagder> about 9% | ||
783 | <g003y> I'll give it a try tonight when I recompile | ||
784 | <g003y> I have a player | ||
785 | <Bagder> neato | ||
786 | <Zagor> ok | ||
787 | <Bagder> we need the playlist tested a bit | ||
788 | <g003y> I'm just at my day job right now coding less interesting crap | ||
789 | <Bagder> g003y: so what kind of stuff do you work with? | ||
790 | <g003y> a mixture of win32 & *nixes | ||
791 | <g003y> C, perl asp... whatever needs to be done mostly | ||
792 | <g003y> most of our FEs are IIS | ||
793 | <Zagor> ueck :) | ||
794 | <g003y> but lots of the behind the scenes is unixy | ||
795 | <g003y> hey I even hop on the g4 once and awhile to pretend I have a flipper for the mouse button :D | ||
796 | <Zagor> hehe | ||
797 | <Bagder> :-) | ||
798 | <Bagder> http://freshmeat.net/stats/#vitality | ||
799 | * Bagder smiles | ||
800 | <Zagor> hehe | ||
801 | <g003y> I don't see rockbox there yet :D | ||
802 | <g003y> j (score: 44,252 - 36.97%) | ||
803 | <g003y> A programmer's editor written in Java. | ||
804 | <g003y> that is up there, but VI or VIM is not? | ||
805 | <Zagor> it's a new rating system, there hasn't been a lot of votes yet | ||
806 | <g003y> ahhhhh... gotcha | ||
807 | <Bagder> vitality isn't based on that | ||
808 | <Zagor> ah, yes that was vitality | ||
809 | <Bagder> but it requires rather frequent releases | ||
810 | <Zagor> vi has vitality 0.01% :) | ||
811 | <g003y> gotcha | ||
812 | <Zagor> vim is at 0.51% | ||
813 | <Bagder> so more stable projects tend to get less "vital" | ||
814 | <Zagor> rockbox is at 0.00 | ||
815 | <g003y> well how is popularity rated? | ||
816 | <Bagder> I honestly don't know how any of those numbers are calculated | ||
817 | <Zagor> "The popularity score superseded the old counters for record hits, URL hits and subscriptions. Popularity is calculated as (record hits * URL hits * (subscriptions + 1))^(1/3)." | ||
818 | <Bagder> oh | ||
819 | <Bagder> curl = Popularity: 12.84% (Rank 100) | ||
820 | <Zagor> "The vitality score for a project is calculated like this: (announcements * age) / (last_announcement)" | ||
821 | <g003y> oh there is the link I was looking for that zagor kindly regurigiated for me :D | ||
822 | <Zagor> hehe | ||
823 | * Zagor is trying to get used to mutt... | ||
824 | <g003y> mutt is nice | ||
825 | <g003y> unfortunately I haven't converted yet | ||
826 | <Zagor> i've used elm and thenpine for the last 10 years, so it's hard for me to change | ||
827 | <Bagder> I've built my whole life around pine ;-) | ||
828 | <g003y> hahahahahaha | ||
829 | <Bagder> Zagor: so what's left for a 1.1 release? | ||
830 | <Zagor> nothing, really. I just want to test it a bit more. | ||
831 | <Bagder> ok | ||
832 | <Bagder> just checking ;-) | ||
833 | <Zagor> i'm thinking maybe "Shuffle" should be an "on/off" option rather than an action | ||
834 | <Bagder> yes | ||
835 | <Bagder> and possible a "reshuffle" as an action | ||
836 | <Zagor> so you set it before you start the playlist | ||
837 | <Bagder> possibly | ||
838 | <Zagor> yeah | ||
839 | <Bagder> did you time the shuffle of 4500 songs? | ||
840 | <Bagder> or didn't you try it? | ||
841 | <Zagor> i did. 5120 songs takes just under 5 seconds | ||
842 | <Bagder> yes, to read from a file, right? | ||
843 | <Zagor> oh, the shuffle. hang on... | ||
844 | <Bagder> I meant only the shuffle part | ||
845 | <Zagor> it's very quick. sub-second i think | ||
846 | <Bagder> that is great | ||
847 | <Zagor> tested now. it's like 0.5 seconds. | ||
848 | <g003y> schweet | ||
849 | <Bagder> it makes me feel really warm inside that our thoughs prove to be working so good | ||
850 | <Zagor> yes, i agree | ||
851 | <Zagor> and this means 1.1 will be a real alternative for some people. still very unpolished, but with one killer feature | ||
852 | <Bagder> yeah | ||
853 | <g003y> shuffle that blows archos' effort out of the water? | ||
854 | <Zagor> fast and big playlists | ||
855 | <g003y> I thought you were talking just shuffle there | ||
856 | <Zagor> archos don't do shuffling like this, so there's no real comparison. | ||
857 | <g003y> another killer feature? | ||
858 | <Zagor> but they do load playlists, at a horrible speed | ||
859 | <g003y> the playlist stuff is horrible on theirs | ||
860 | <Zagor> the huge playlist support is our killer feature | ||
861 | <g003y> they've got features, but sacrificed speed | ||
862 | <g003y> yeah thats great | ||
863 | <PsycoXul> whats its limit? memory? heh | ||
864 | <PsycoXul> or hd space? | ||
865 | <PsycoXul> or what | ||
866 | <Zagor> we set a 10000 entry limit | ||
867 | <Bagder> they probably just do it "The Wrong Way" | ||
868 | <Zagor> memory is the limit, since we need to hold one integer per entry | ||
869 | <PsycoXul> heh | ||
870 | <g003y> I thought the integer solution was quite crafty. | ||
871 | <g003y> I believe archos is doing something far nastier with memory usage | ||
872 | <Zagor> I like it | ||
873 | <Zagor> oooh yes... | ||
874 | <Bagder> just watching the time it takes to load a playlist indicates something really nasty | ||
875 | <g003y> so have any of the archos ppl contacted the group about this project in any way? | ||
876 | <Zagor> nope | ||
877 | <Zagor> they ignore us vehemently :) | ||
878 | <g003y> you're making their dev team look bad :D | ||
879 | <Zagor> hehe | ||
880 | <Bagder> we've gone from completely *nothing* to this point in ~6 months | ||
881 | <g003y> fricking good stuff :) | ||
882 | <Zagor> all the code is written since april... | ||
883 | <Bagder> hehe | ||
884 | <Bagder> can you run a simulated player? | ||
885 | <Zagor> yes | ||
886 | <Bagder> it just died so hard on me | ||
887 | <Zagor> but I get a lot of those X errors | ||
888 | <Bagder> I can't even close gdb now! | ||
889 | <Bagder> The program is running. Exit anyway? (y or n) y | ||
890 | <Zagor> that happened to me too the other day | ||
891 | <Bagder> Error accessing memory address 0x4018d664: No such process. | ||
892 | <g003y> doh! | ||
893 | <Zagor> ouch | ||
894 | <Bagder> had to kill it manually from another terminal | ||
895 | <Bagder> hm | ||
896 | <g003y> ok | ||
897 | <g003y> sorry wrong window :D | ||
898 | <g003y> dang trillian makes that stuff confusing :D | ||
899 | <Bagder> it just does not work here | ||
900 | <Zagor> odd | ||
901 | <Bagder> all I see is the initial screen | ||
902 | <Bagder> and nothing more happens | ||
903 | <Zagor> trillian hung a win2k box solid for me the other day. i ain't touching that stuff again :) | ||
904 | <Bagder> "ROCKbox" "CVS" | ||
905 | <g003y> I run trillian on win2k connected to IRC, AIM, ICQ and YIM. I can't live without it anymore :D | ||
906 | <Bagder> but the recorder version runs just fine | ||
907 | <Bagder> how do I switch thread in gdb? | ||
908 | <Bagder> hehe | ||
909 | <Bagder> no archos dir | ||
910 | <Zagor> moooh | ||
911 | <Bagder> I made one now | ||
912 | <Bagder> and... | ||
913 | <Bagder> Segmentation fault (core dumped) | ||
914 | <g003y> bomb baby bomb! | ||
915 | <Zagor> it shouldn't crash so hard for that | ||
916 | <g003y> user error? :D | ||
917 | <Bagder> lcd_puts_scroll() | ||
918 | <Bagder> #0 0x401ed897 in strlen (str=0x1 <Address 0x1 out of bounds>) | ||
919 | <Bagder> at ../sysdeps/i386/strlen.c:27 | ||
920 | <Bagder> #1 0x804e8e1 in lcd_puts (x=1, y=0, str=0x1 <Address 0x1 out of bounds>) | ||
921 | <Bagder> at ../../firmware/drivers/lcd.c:501 | ||
922 | <Bagder> #2 0x804f04f in lcd_puts_scroll (x=1, y=0, | ||
923 | <Bagder> string=0x1 <Address 0x1 out of bounds>) at ../../firmware/drivers/lcd.c:773 | ||
924 | <Bagder> #3 0x804d37e in dirbrowse (root=0x8050e7f "/") at ../../apps/tree.c:243 | ||
925 | <elinenbe> later guys. you fucking rock! (off to do some database modelling and design!) | ||
926 | <Bagder> see ya elinenbe | ||
927 | <g003y> cya | ||
928 | <Bagder> Zagor: I have a completely empty dir | ||
929 | <Zagor> i'll test | ||
930 | <Zagor> i got the crash too | ||
931 | <Bagder> tree.c line 243 | ||
932 | <Zagor> ah, of course. silly me | ||
933 | <Zagor> any empty dir will crash it | ||
934 | <Bagder> yeah | ||
935 | <Zagor> fixed | ||
936 | * Bagder updates | ||
937 | <Bagder> better | ||
938 | <Bagder> but what is the question mark doing there? | ||
939 | <Zagor> it's the cursor | ||
940 | <Bagder> ah | ||
941 | <Zagor> special char on player | ||
942 | <Bagder> we should fake that better in the simulator | ||
943 | <Zagor> yup | ||
944 | <Zagor> i also want icons in the player simulator soon... | ||
945 | <Bagder> true | ||
946 | <Bagder> shouldn't be too hard | ||
947 | <Bagder> I like the scroll | ||
948 | <Zagor> yeah, it's nice. your idea was better. | ||
949 | <Bagder> I think so too, it fills better | ||
950 | <Zagor> the code is actually simpler for this scroll than the previous model | ||
951 | <PsycoXul> hey somebody wanna post a current-cvs new-player build i can try out? i haven't messed with it since i went on vacation | ||
952 | <Zagor> sure | ||
953 | <Zagor> http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/player/archos.mod | ||
954 | <PsycoXul> thanks | ||
955 | <PsycoXul> hmm ok | ||
956 | <PsycoXul> that doesn't update the LCD at all after the rom firmware boot screen | ||
957 | <Bagder> wrong lcd version? | ||
958 | <Zagor> uh, it doesn't? | ||
959 | <Zagor> duh, I gave you an old player version. sorry | ||
960 | <PsycoXul> heh | ||
961 | <Zagor> grab it again | ||
962 | <PsycoXul> nice | ||
963 | <Zagor> try starting a playlist | ||
964 | <g003y> that mod for the 4.50+ player hardware? | ||
965 | <Zagor> yup | ||
966 | <PsycoXul> ok | ||
967 | <PsycoXul> i've only got a couple of short playlists saved on here heh | ||
968 | <Bagder> booo ;-) | ||
969 | <g003y> get those perl scripts out :D | ||
970 | <PsycoXul> i'm not one for listening to the same set over again | ||
971 | <PsycoXul> :p | ||
972 | <Bagder> hehe | ||
973 | <Zagor> make a list of the whole disk | ||
974 | <PsycoXul> how do you start the playlist? | ||
975 | <Bagder> play | ||
976 | <g003y> ha! | ||
977 | <PsycoXul> hmm | ||
978 | <g003y> no go? | ||
979 | <PsycoXul> it just says loading nnn files, complete | ||
980 | <PsycoXul> and thats it | ||
981 | <Zagor> doesn't start playing? | ||
982 | <PsycoXul> no | ||
983 | <g003y> format of playlist affect it? | ||
984 | <Zagor> the display isn't supposed to say title or anything. but it's supposed to play the files. | ||
985 | <Zagor> odd. works in the sim | ||
986 | <PsycoXul> they're playlists that archos' firmware saved | ||
987 | <PsycoXul> heh | ||
988 | <Bagder> they should be fine | ||
989 | <Zagor> ah, how did you make those playlists? | ||
990 | <g003y> _should_ is the keyword in that sentence | ||
991 | <Bagder> hehe, of course | ||
992 | <Zagor> i bet there are backslashes and/or disk names in there? | ||
993 | <Bagder> I don't think so | ||
994 | <Bagder> mine didn't | ||
995 | <g003y> zagor - what format does the code expect? | ||
996 | <PsycoXul> lemme look at what they look like | ||
997 | <Bagder> normal / slash | ||
998 | <Zagor> forward slashes, no C: | ||
999 | <g003y> CR-LF combo? | ||
1000 | <g003y> or just LF? | ||
1001 | <Bagder> either way | ||
1002 | <Bagder> ah | ||
1003 | <Bagder> its broke | ||
1004 | <g003y> I was just about to try it, but not now :D | ||
1005 | <PsycoXul> ./Nine Inch Nails/The Fragile/Left/01 - somewhat damaged.mp3 | ||
1006 | <Zagor> kill the leading dot | ||
1007 | <Bagder> initial dot huh? :-) | ||
1008 | <Bagder> Zagor: the code doesn't work with CRLF right now | ||
1009 | <Zagor> ok | ||
1010 | <PsycoXul> heh that shouldn't be a problem :p | ||
1011 | <PsycoXul> and they're dos format text too | ||
1012 | * PsycoXul makes a whole-disk playlist | ||
1013 | <PsycoXul> oh damnit whats find's problem | ||
1014 | * PsycoXul runs it through sort | ||
1015 | <PsycoXul> thats better | ||
1016 | <PsycoXul> i noticed directories that start with a . don't show up in the browser | ||
1017 | <Zagor> you can't have that in fat32, can you? | ||
1018 | <PsycoXul> yeah i've got a few of them | ||
1019 | <PsycoXul> just cause they also don't show up in archos' browser and they have either oggs or mp3's that are silent for no apparent reason on the archos [or maybe just with archos' firmware, i haven't tried them with rockbox] | ||
1020 | <Zagor> ok | ||
1021 | <Zagor> i need to test that. we don't do any filtering so that's a bug | ||
1022 | <Bagder> Zagor: is the fs code totally case insensitive? | ||
1023 | <Zagor> it should be, but there may be bugs | ||
1024 | <Bagder> ok | ||
1025 | <Bagder> it just struck me | ||
1026 | <Zagor> umm, no. it's totally sensitive | ||
1027 | <Zagor> bad move :) | ||
1028 | <Bagder> dang | ||
1029 | <Zagor> buh, now we need to add strnicmp to common/ | ||
1030 | <Bagder> heh | ||
1031 | <Bagder> strncasecmp() ? | ||
1032 | <Zagor> yes | ||
1033 | <Bagder> (I'm just nitpicking on the name) | ||
1034 | <Zagor> i know :) | ||
1035 | <PsycoXul> ok my complete playlist ends up 2641 tracks | ||
1036 | <Zagor> try loading it. you'll like it :) | ||
1037 | <Bagder> ok, I'm off. See ya mañana | ||
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1039 | <PsycoXul> hmm | ||
1040 | <PsycoXul> still doesn't play | ||
1041 | <PsycoXul> /Ac-Dc/Back In Black/01-Hells Bells.mp3 | ||
1042 | <PsycoXul> format, unix-style text | ||
1043 | <Zagor> ok | ||
1044 | <PsycoXul> hmm after i started playing a file and pressing stop to go back to the browser, the ui sorta paused with a jerky scroll of the file it was on, for a second or two before letting me do anything | ||
1045 | <g003y> different question (sorry to hijack) - Is there a way to go back to the playing display after exiting back to the browser? | ||
1046 | <PsycoXul> and bass over 70% has nasty clipping on this AC/DC song heh, even at lower volumes | ||
1047 | <PsycoXul> g003y: thats a good question | ||
1048 | <PsycoXul> and there's still random files that get displayed with junk names | ||
1049 | <PsycoXul> directories anyways i dunno about files actualy | ||
1050 | <Zagor> g003y: currently there is no way to do that | ||
1051 | <Zagor> PsycoXul: that might be short FAT names. I haven't been able to test those much. | ||
1052 | <g003y> zagor - hmm... how about like a fetaure that returns to it when a user has idled on pressing buttons or would that be overdoing it? | ||
1053 | <Zagor> i don't like the machine to decide things on its own. i think a simple toggle button is better | ||
1054 | <g003y> I believe button combos are precious on the player. | ||
1055 | <g003y> ok | ||
1056 | <g003y> sounds fair to me | ||
1057 | <PsycoXul> i think this one is called 'disc 2 misc' or something i dunno about the white spaces or if tehy're -'s or _'s, i forget, but it displays as 'isk_2_-_02_-_' | ||
1058 | <Zagor> check to be sure | ||
1059 | <PsycoXul> oh i've probably got it on the playlist i've just made so i can look at that heh | ||
1060 | <PsycoXul> ah its actualy 'disc3-misc' | ||
1061 | <PsycoXul> heh | ||
1062 | <Zagor> and how is it displayed? | ||
1063 | <PsycoXul> 'isk_2_-_02_0_' | ||
1064 | <PsycoXul> er | ||
1065 | <PsycoXul> 'isk_2_-_02_-_' | ||
1066 | <Zagor> veeery odd | ||
1067 | <PsycoXul> yeah and 'Beck' is displayed as 'Ozzy.m3u.m3u' | ||
1068 | <g003y> left over buffer garbage? | ||
1069 | <Zagor> looks like it, yeah | ||
1070 | <PsycoXul> and 'Adam Sandler' is 'HMC1 Y?? U?' the ?'s actualy being little 3's as if they're being cubed heh | ||
1071 | <Zagor> it's the fat32 driver | ||
1072 | <g003y> psyco- is that only happening on playlists for you? | ||
1073 | <PsycoXul> no its the display of these directories in the browser | ||
1074 | <g003y> oh sorry | ||
1075 | <PsycoXul> and these funky names are consistant | ||
1076 | <g003y> I thought it was the filenames | ||
1077 | <PsycoXul> they're always these heh | ||
1078 | <g003y> heh... well at least it's consistent | ||
1079 | <PsycoXul> though the adam sandler one the little 3's used to be other chars in older rockbox versions heh | ||
1080 | <g003y> I think zagor is jamming over some fat32 code right now as we speak :D | ||
1081 | <Zagor> what, me? :) | ||
1082 | <PsycoXul> oh 'Misc-junk' also displays as 'Pilots.m3u' | ||
1083 | <PsycoXul> and you know whatever else heh | ||
1084 | <PsycoXul> hmm | ||
1085 | <PsycoXul> and i go into the recycled dir | ||
1086 | <PsycoXul> where theres some wav files | ||
1087 | <PsycoXul> and i select one | ||
1088 | <PsycoXul> and then stop it | ||
1089 | <Zagor> this is not short-name issues. misc-junk is 9 chars == longname | ||
1090 | <PsycoXul> and then press stop again to leave the recycled dir | ||
1091 | <PsycoXul> and i get DH0 DH1 and INFO2 | ||
1092 | <PsycoXul> displayed in the browser | ||
1093 | <Zagor> eh? | ||
1094 | <g003y> I'm trying to reproduce it right now, but not much luck here | ||
1095 | <PsycoXul> ok its also sometimes just going into the recycled dir | ||
1096 | <PsycoXul> and sometimes leaving it | ||
1097 | <PsycoXul> hmm unless they're actualy in there and the bounce is putting me into the first one | ||
1098 | <Zagor> well I need to gdb this, so it'll have to wait until the morning | ||
1099 | <PsycoXul> ok i think thats whats going on with the DH0 DH1 and INFO2 things is just that i didn't see them there at first because of the button sensitivity so disregard that one | ||
1100 | <Zagor> ok, good | ||
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1113 | <PsycoXul> well there most of them came back | ||
1114 | <adi|work> jesus.. | ||
1115 | <adi|work> just tested the playlist with 2000 line file | ||
1116 | <adi|work> that sucker flys :) | ||
1117 | <PsycoXul> yeah | ||
1118 | <PsycoXul> Loadding... | ||
1119 | <adi|work> and i love the variable scroll | ||
1120 | <PsycoXul> Complete. | ||
1121 | <PsycoXul> 2641 files | ||
1122 | <PsycoXul> heh | ||
1123 | <PsycoXul> yeah | ||
1124 | <adi|work> hehe i don't even see the Loading in the sim ;) | ||
1125 | <PsycoXul> i just wish this playlist would actualy | ||
1126 | <PsycoXul> you know... | ||
1127 | <PsycoXul> play | ||
1128 | <PsycoXul> :p | ||
1129 | <adi|work> heheh hmmm odd | ||
1130 | <PsycoXul> yeah it just loads | ||
1131 | <adi|work> shuffle core dumps the sim | ||
1132 | <PsycoXul> here it says "Shuffling.. | ||
1133 | <PsycoXul> Done." | ||
1134 | <adi|work> yeah.. but i let it go and it cores... | ||
1135 | <PsycoXul> damn | ||
1136 | <PsycoXul> even at 70% bass i get some clipping | ||
1137 | <adi|work> on the player? | ||
1138 | <PsycoXul> yeah | ||
1139 | <PsycoXul> what happened man... heh | ||
1140 | <adi|work> ahh.. i only have recorder :( | ||
1141 | <PsycoXul> last day of last month i tried it | ||
1142 | <PsycoXul> and the browser was a little slow but there was no oversensitivity | ||
1143 | <PsycoXul> and you could crank the bass all the way without any clipping and it sounded good | ||
1144 | <PsycoXul> now its all oversensitive and clipping in the bass heh | ||
1145 | <adi|work> hehehe fix it ;) | ||
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1156 | <PsycoXul> this one soundtrack too, the first track locks rockbox up | ||
1157 | <PsycoXul> tried it like 3 or 4 times | ||
1158 | <adi|work> hehehe | ||
1159 | <PsycoXul> just freezes with the browser display still on it | ||
1160 | <PsycoXul> yeah it is odd, the rest of the tracks in it seem to work fine | ||
1161 | <adi|work> we're violating memory somewhere in the sim... | ||
1162 | <adi|work> tracking it down | ||
1163 | <PsycoXul> so like i think from interface end that it'd be nice if it wants to stay in the playing-file-info-display while its playing | ||
1164 | <PsycoXul> and stop from there will stop it and return to browser while some other button or combo can switch between that and the browser while its still playing | ||
1165 | <PsycoXul> at least on the player, i know the recorder's got different buttons so it can behave different ways appropriate to it, but this makes sense to me on the player | ||
1166 | <adi|work> damn it.. i dont know what it is... | ||
1167 | <adi|work> but the sim is definatly bugging out | ||
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1170 | <PsycoXul> so yeah i should like make some animated icons for the player or something | ||
1171 | <PsycoXul> hmm the firmware's shutoff in archos' firmware is faster than the hard one that works with rockbox | ||
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1173 | <g003y> ahh back again :D | ||
1174 | <g003y> psyco - did you get that garbage display resolved? | ||
1175 | <adi|work> umm... day before last i think | ||
1176 | <g003y> he was having a problem earlier though | ||
1177 | <g003y> today that is | ||
1178 | <PsycoXul> well i think zagor was looking into it | ||
1179 | <PsycoXul> or not | ||
1180 | <PsycoXul> but there was a split and when it returned he didn't come back with it | ||
1181 | <PsycoXul> heh | ||
1182 | <PsycoXul> so i dunno whats going on | ||
1183 | <g003y> oh ok | ||
1184 | <g003y> I wasn't able to reproduce it, but I don't think I followed your steps exactly | ||
1185 | <PsycoXul> er? steps? | ||
1186 | <PsycoXul> the problem is with some directories | ||
1187 | <g003y> only some.... hmmmm | ||
1188 | <PsycoXul> right | ||
1189 | <PsycoXul> a few of them display weird things instead of what they are | ||
1190 | <PsycoXul> and the weird things they display are always the same, between reboots, different compiles, different versions, etc | ||
1191 | <PsycoXul> except one of them has changed a little between versions | ||
1192 | <g003y> hmmmm.... very strange. I was trying to see it happen on my player, but no go | ||
1193 | <g003y> ah well Zagor will figure it out :D | ||
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1197 | <dwihno> hello gooey | ||
1198 | <g003y> heya | ||
1199 | <dwihno> waaazaaaap? :) | ||
1200 | <g003y> just trying to get a sourceforge account | ||
1201 | <g003y> but I didn't have my alias right so I imagine the verification email bounced or is relaying somewhere :D | ||
1202 | <dwihno> oops :) | ||
1203 | <g003y> heh... thats what I get for having two alias files :D. damn backups. | ||
1204 | <dwihno> yeah, backups are a pain in the ass ;) | ||
1205 | <g003y> hehehe | ||
1206 | <g003y> guess I will just wait and see what happens. | ||
1207 | <dwihno> yeah | ||
1208 | <dwihno> Have you done any productive stuff for rockbox? :) | ||
1209 | <g003y> not today | ||
1210 | <g003y> I'm trying to get my account setup so I can submit what I have at least | ||
1211 | <g003y> talked with Zagor and he liked my ideas | ||
1212 | <g003y> so I guess I will jam some code soon | ||
1213 | <g003y> that and try to finish gta3 one day :D | ||
1214 | <dwihno> ah | ||
1215 | <dwihno> gta3? is it possible to finish that game? :) | ||
1216 | <g003y> man... I tell ya. it always ends up in a game of how long can I live with x number of stars :D | ||
1217 | <g003y> I'm still only on the second island | ||
1218 | <dwihno> Island? | ||
1219 | <dwihno> Hmm | ||
1220 | <dwihno> I haven't even played it ;) | ||
1221 | <g003y> ahhh | ||
1222 | <g003y> worth a play at least once | ||
1223 | * dwihno has not even got a computer anymore | ||
1224 | <g003y> what are you in a lab or something? | ||
1225 | <dwihno> nope, work :) | ||
1226 | <dwihno> or whateveryoucallit ;) | ||
1227 | <g003y> no computer man. I feel for ya | ||
1228 | <g003y> ghahahahah | ||
1229 | <g003y> the spice mines | ||
1230 | <dwihno> hehe | ||
1231 | <dwihno> I'm awaiting money from an invoice... | ||
1232 | <dwihno> Then I'll get myself a kick-arse-evil-shiznat portable thingy | ||
1233 | <g003y> ahhhh... you waiting on the ones with the nice nvidia/ati 3d cards in them? | ||
1234 | <g003y> or something even more portable than a laptop? | ||
1235 | <dwihno> Nah, it's a laptop alright | ||
1236 | <dwihno> With a geforce4 go chip | ||
1237 | <dwihno> I can't live without q3a! :) | ||
1238 | <g003y> oh yeah thats sweet | ||
1239 | <dwihno> But I've been waiting for this invoice for almost a month now and I'm running out of patience | ||
1240 | <elinenbe> dwihno: I just got the toshiba 5105-s607 and it is incredible | ||
1241 | <g003y> geez.... surely it isn't hard to pay up. | ||
1242 | <dwihno> elinenbe: That purple thing? | ||
1243 | <elinenbe> well, more blue, but it is incredible | ||
1244 | <dwihno> Yeah | ||
1245 | <elinenbe> except for the battery life. | ||
1246 | <dwihno> I bet it is :) | ||
1247 | <elinenbe> that is the only thing I could complain about. | ||
1248 | <dwihno> It's a monster! :) | ||
1249 | <elinenbe> It is great. | ||
1250 | <dwihno> It's perversion at its greatest ;) | ||
1251 | <elinenbe> much faster/better/etc. then my old HUGE tower. | ||
1252 | <dwihno> What is the hardware specs? | ||
1253 | <elinenbe> 1.7 P4 mobile | ||
1254 | <elinenbe> 512 ram | ||
1255 | <elinenbe> 40 gig hard drive | ||
1256 | <dwihno> sweet stuff :)~ | ||
1257 | <elinenbe> 15 inch 1600x1200 resolution monitor (easily the sharpest brightest monitor I have EVER used) | ||
1258 | <g003y> oh yeah.... you guys are making me horny with those specs :D | ||
1259 | <elinenbe> and I have had a 21 inch flat screen sony for a while. | ||
1260 | <dwihno> :) | ||
1261 | <elinenbe> flat CRT that is... | ||
1262 | <elinenbe> GREAT speakers including a SUBWOOFER!! (no joke!) | ||
1263 | <elinenbe> it is just incredible. | ||
1264 | <elinenbe> I went through 3 laptops getting this one. | ||
1265 | <dwihno> The dell-box I'm gonna get is a 1.6 P4-M, 512 RAM, 30 (or 40) gig drive.... And 1400xsomething screen | ||
1266 | <elinenbe> first a HP, then a Gateway, then this. | ||
1267 | <elinenbe> and this is BY far the best. | ||
1268 | <elinenbe> 8x dvd/cdr/cdrw | ||
1269 | <elinenbe> usually 1450x1200 | ||
1270 | <elinenbe> or something like that | ||
1271 | <g003y> they do laptops with tfts at 1450x1200? | ||
1272 | <dwihno> yeah | ||
1273 | <g003y> fucking eh | ||
1274 | <dwihno> 15.1" something | ||
1275 | <g003y> thats almost 1600x1200 | ||
1276 | <g003y> and it all fits in a backpack :/ | ||
1277 | <g003y> that just owns | ||
1278 | <dwihno> yeah | ||
1279 | <dwihno> But as everything else, there is a pricetag :( | ||
1280 | <dwihno> I would get that toshiba if I was rich & famous | ||
1281 | <g003y> yeah I know... thats the hard part | ||
1282 | <g003y> hahahahahaha | ||
1283 | <dwihno> But I'm neither rich or famous, so I guess the Dell will be perfect for me ;) | ||
1284 | <g003y> if I was rich and famous I'd have one of each in the computing world :D | ||
1285 | <elinenbe> my laptop here is 1600x1200 | ||
1286 | <elinenbe> 15.1 screen | ||
1287 | <elinenbe> it is incredible. | ||
1288 | <dwihno> :)~ | ||
1289 | <dwihno> Hey, you really know how to pickup ladies at the bar ;D | ||
1290 | <dwihno> "I got myself a Toshiba evil laptop thingy!" | ||
1291 | <dwihno> "Whoa, lemme see!" | ||
1292 | <g003y> "you wanna see my 15.1" baby?" | ||
1293 | <dwihno> :) | ||
1294 | <dwihno> Damn | ||
1295 | <dwihno> Windows won't let me start indesign | ||
1296 | <dwihno> *look through the process list for fishyness* | ||
1297 | <elinenbe> on recorder: about 1.5 seconds for a 5000 song playlist, and then instant shuffle! | ||
1298 | <elinenbe> wow! | ||
1299 | <dwihno> whoa! | ||
1300 | <g003y> my playlist won't play though :( | ||
1301 | <dwihno> KICK-ARSE! | ||
1302 | **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jun 14 00:29:46 2002 | ||
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