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1 | **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 16 22:16:35 2002 | ||
2 | |||
3 | --> adiamas (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-128.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) has joined #rockbox | ||
4 | --- Topic for #rockbox is Does your box rock? http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/ | ||
5 | --- Topic for #rockbox set by Bagder at Mon May 13 04:46:28 | ||
6 | --- You are now known as adi|home | ||
7 | --> Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
8 | <dw|gone> Hellö ppl! | ||
9 | --- dw|gone is now known as dwihno | ||
10 | <Bagder> morning | ||
11 | <dwihno> How are you today? | ||
12 | <Bagder> pretty good | ||
13 | <Bagder> loadsa mails to deal with | ||
14 | <dwihno> "Free XXX" | ||
15 | <dwihno> "Get bigger dick with our magic pills" | ||
16 | <dwihno> "Debt consolidation" | ||
17 | <Bagder> more like "how do I make this work?" kinds | ||
18 | <Bagder> the spams are mostly filtered automaticly | ||
19 | <dwihno> You work as a consultant? | ||
20 | <Bagder> yes | ||
21 | <Bagder> but the mails are mostly about my spare time hacks | ||
22 | <dwihno> what kind of consultant? | ||
23 | <Bagder> embedded, network, unix | ||
24 | <dwihno> Oh | ||
25 | <dwihno> Sounds like a fun job :) | ||
26 | <Bagder> been working for Net Insight the least 2+ years | ||
27 | <Bagder> oh it _is_ a great job | ||
28 | <dwihno> I've been unemployed for almost a year :( | ||
29 | --> Linus (~linus@labb.contactor.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
30 | <Bagder> ugha | ||
31 | <Linus> uuh | ||
32 | <dwihno> Good morning Linus-dude! :D | ||
33 | <Bagder> hey Linus the rocker! | ||
34 | <Linus> morning d00d! | ||
35 | <Bagder> you're early | ||
36 | <dwihno> Bagder: Yeah, it sucks, but I'm not giving up - I write applications almost every day | ||
37 | <Linus> Yup. Have to go early today | ||
38 | <Bagder> dwihno: that's probably the sane thing to do | ||
39 | * Linus goes for coffee | ||
40 | <dwihno> :-) | ||
41 | * dwihno .equals(sane) | ||
42 | <dwihno> *yawn* | ||
43 | <dwihno> I hate cooking lunch in the morning | ||
44 | <dwihno> <-- did some pretty nice chicken salad | ||
45 | <Linus> what do you guys think we should do about the GDB enabled version of librockbox? | ||
46 | <Linus> and the release version? | ||
47 | <Linus> multiple targets in the makefile? | ||
48 | <Linus> or multiple libraries? | ||
49 | <Bagder> good q | ||
50 | <Bagder> my opinion: multiple targets, the same library | ||
51 | <Linus> OK. next q: | ||
52 | <Linus> should thread.c malloc() the stack, or should we have static stacks for the threads? | ||
53 | <Linus> not a big issue, really. Just thinking. | ||
54 | <Bagder> I doubt that we'll realloc() the stack so a static is slightly better | ||
55 | <Linus> ok | ||
56 | <Linus> we need special compiler flags for some files, like thread.o | ||
57 | <Linus> how do we do that without messing with the dependencies? | ||
58 | <Bagder> that's the downside of all those wildcard things | ||
59 | <dwihno> <-- loves wildcards | ||
60 | <Bagder> the thread.o should have its own line in the makefile, with its own additional flags on the compile line | ||
61 | <Linus> Bagder: indeed | ||
62 | <Linus> What does Make do when thread.o has two targets? | ||
63 | <Bagder> it yells | ||
64 | <Linus> gah | ||
65 | <Linus> So what do we do | ||
66 | <Bagder> thread.o must be removed from the wildcard-generated list | ||
67 | <dwihno> Some shell script generating the makefile's perhaps? | ||
68 | <-- Tumm has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) | ||
69 | <Bagder> I bet there is some keyword that allows us to cut out a specific file from the SRC generated list | ||
70 | <Linus> Bagder: Yeah. I guess we have to do that. It's a pity. | ||
71 | <Bagder> SRC = $(filter tread.c, $(SRC)) | ||
72 | <Bagder> SRC = $(filter-out tread.c, $(SRC)) | ||
73 | <Bagder> rather | ||
74 | <Bagder> btw | ||
75 | <Bagder> Linus: do you know why the Recorder doesn't allow music to be played while charging the batteries? | ||
76 | <dwihno> It doesn't?! :( | ||
77 | <Bagder> at least I haven't been able to make it ;-) | ||
78 | <dwihno> hm | ||
79 | <dwihno> You probably forgot connecting it to the PC ;) | ||
80 | <dwihno> Do you develop using linux or windows? | ||
81 | <Bagder> there is only one ;-) | ||
82 | <Bagder> Linux | ||
83 | <Bagder> and Solaris too actually | ||
84 | <dwihno> okay | ||
85 | <dwihno> USB on solaris? | ||
86 | <dwihno> Did you ever try a BSD variant? | ||
87 | <Bagder> I don't need usb to develop | ||
88 | <Bagder> we have simulators, remember | ||
89 | <dwihno> aaah | ||
90 | <dwihno> the Simulator(tm) :D | ||
91 | <Bagder> yes, I've tried BSD variants | ||
92 | <dwihno> so what did you think? | ||
93 | <Bagder> about what? | ||
94 | <Bagder> BSD? | ||
95 | <dwihno> yeah | ||
96 | <dwihno> and how much of a difference is there between the simulator and the real hardware? | ||
97 | <Bagder> the simulators simulate the "low-level" APIs, so we can write "apps" on them | ||
98 | <Bagder> the BSDs are generally fine, in some areas great, in some not so great | ||
99 | <dwihno> Please go on :) | ||
100 | <Linus> Bagder: Zagor does it all day (listening while charging) | ||
101 | <Bagder> hm | ||
102 | <Linus> I tried just now. What is your problem? | ||
103 | <Linus> You have to push "on" | ||
104 | <Linus> puch and hold | ||
105 | <Bagder> while charging? | ||
106 | <Linus> just like when you turn it on normally | ||
107 | <dwihno> So what linux distributions are you guys using+ | ||
108 | <Linus> Red Hat | ||
109 | <Linus> I wanted to install Debian, bit it kind of backfired on me | ||
110 | <Bagder> ah ok | ||
111 | <Bagder> I just didn't press long enough | ||
112 | <dwihno> How about you Bagder? | ||
113 | <Linus> He is an old red hat | ||
114 | <Bagder> once upon the time redhat | ||
115 | <dwihno> /\ | ||
116 | <Bagder> source since | ||
117 | <Linus> patched as hell | ||
118 | <dwihno> /\ | ||
119 | <dwihno> hm | ||
120 | <dwihno> that's my hat ;) | ||
121 | <Bagder> $ telnet localhost | ||
122 | * adi|home slaps you all with the "be quiet im tring to sleep" stick | ||
123 | <Bagder> Trying 127.0.0.1... | ||
124 | <Bagder> Connected to localhost. | ||
125 | <Bagder> Escape character is '^]'. | ||
126 | <Bagder> Storebror Linux What Hasn't Crashed Yet Soon Will | ||
127 | <Bagder> Kernel 2.4.18 on an i686 | ||
128 | <Bagder> login: | ||
129 | <Bagder> :-) | ||
130 | <dwihno> Telnet rules | ||
131 | <Bagder> you tring huh? ;-) | ||
132 | <adi|home> telnet SUCKS | ||
133 | <adi|home> ssh is god | ||
134 | <adi|home> i have issues with plain text | ||
135 | <Bagder> telnet is fine on localhost ;-) | ||
136 | <adi|home> or "here, sniff my password" | ||
137 | <adi|home> bah, humbug | ||
138 | <adi|home> i wouldn't trade the ease of use of scp and ssh for anything | ||
139 | <dwihno> ssh is good | ||
140 | <dwihno> and cute | ||
141 | <Linus> what do we prefer: | ||
142 | <Linus> make DEBUG=1 | ||
143 | <Linus> or | ||
144 | <Linus> make debug | ||
145 | <adi|home> make debug | ||
146 | <Bagder> the latter | ||
147 | <Linus> ok | ||
148 | <adi|home> cause its like comparing to "make CLEAN=1" | ||
149 | <adi|home> :) | ||
150 | <Bagder> yeah | ||
151 | <Linus> not really. clean is a target, DEBUG is more like an option | ||
152 | <adi|home> have we reached any sort of decision on how apps/ is going to be set up? | ||
153 | <Linus> debug affects the compiler flags | ||
154 | <adi|home> no, id treat debug as a target too.. | ||
155 | <Bagder> adi|home: hehe, not really, but I think we go for all "general" files in the root with target-specific code in subdirs, for now | ||
156 | <adi|home> doing LINUX or SOLARIS .. those id accept at =1 | ||
157 | <adi|home> k | ||
158 | * adi|home needs to get back into the swing of things | ||
159 | <Bagder> but I don't know why Björn didn't move all the app code from uisimulator to apps | ||
160 | <adi|home> if you want me to just switch everything over i can.. but i don' see a need to yet really | ||
161 | <Bagder> there's no immediate need, no, I just thought it'd be cleaner | ||
162 | <Bagder> when we wanna start building target stuff using the apps | ||
163 | <Linus> Bagder: how do i change CFLAGS in a target? | ||
164 | <Bagder> ehum | ||
165 | <Bagder> you don't | ||
166 | <Linus> Hence my question above | ||
167 | <Bagder> well, in a sane makefile you have a differently named variable for that then | ||
168 | <Linus> and no default rules? | ||
169 | <Linus> Here we go | ||
170 | <Bagder> right | ||
171 | <Bagder> or rather | ||
172 | <Bagder> you'd use different object files | ||
173 | <Linus> oh no | ||
174 | <Bagder> oh yes ;-) | ||
175 | <Linus> Then we are in depoendency hell | ||
176 | <Bagder> not necessarily | ||
177 | <Bagder> DBGOBJS := $(SRC:%.c=debug/%.o) crt0.o | ||
178 | <Bagder> or however you write that kind of stuff | ||
179 | <Bagder> or perhaps not | ||
180 | <Bagder> using default rules really ain't fine here | ||
181 | <Linus> The seldom are | ||
182 | <Bagder> and totally unnecessary since we generate the deps anyway | ||
183 | <Bagder> we can just as well generate the action line too | ||
184 | <Linus> I see the Makefile growing | ||
185 | <Bagder> sure | ||
186 | <Bagder> but it needs to do good | ||
187 | <Bagder> a small bad makefile is worse than a big good one | ||
188 | * adi|home pets the Makefile.. "good makefile.. you grow.. big.. strong makefile.. strong like bull" | ||
189 | <-- calpefrosch|work has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | ||
190 | <Bagder> more coffee | ||
191 | <Linus> I would prefer writing "make DEBUG=1" instead of having a more complex makefile/dependency generation | ||
192 | <Bagder> it'll work for now at least | ||
193 | <dwihno> make -f Makefile.debug | ||
194 | <dwihno> :-) | ||
195 | <Bagder> I received a poem by mail this morning: | ||
196 | <Bagder> fooled dad added cable | ||
197 | <Bagder> failed decode doc called aid | ||
198 | <Bagder> official bill baffled | ||
199 | <Bagder> supposed to be almost Haiku, and it is... | ||
200 | <Bagder> hexadecimal ;-) | ||
201 | <dwihno> haha | ||
202 | <Bagder> 00000000 f0 01 ed da da dd ed ca b1 e0 | ||
203 | <Bagder> 00000013 fa 11 ed de c0 de d0 cc a1 1e da 1d | ||
204 | <Bagder> 0000002b 0f f1 c1 a1 b1 11 ba ff 1e d0 | ||
205 | <dwihno> Writing hexadecimal poetry goes in the top20 of the "what to do on a rainy day" list :) | ||
206 | <Bagder> indeed | ||
207 | --> calpefrosch|work (~calpefros@62.52.174.30) has joined #rockbox | ||
208 | <calpefrosch|work> morning | ||
209 | <Bagder> morning calpe | ||
210 | <Linus> morning Froggy | ||
211 | * calpefrosch|work quacks | ||
212 | --> StarFox (~GatesOfHe@adsl-64-175-110-181.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) has joined #rockbox | ||
213 | * Bagder greets StarFox welcome | ||
214 | <StarFox> hello Bagder | ||
215 | * StarFox is trying out some new themes | ||
216 | <Linus> hi starfox | ||
217 | <StarFox> hello Linus | ||
218 | <Bagder> StarFox: you an Archos owner? | ||
219 | <StarFox> no | ||
220 | <Linus> This is only for club members. :-) | ||
221 | <Linus> haha | ||
222 | <Bagder> hey | ||
223 | <Bagder> there's no rockbox available yet anyway ;-) | ||
224 | <Linus> No, but it's close now | ||
225 | <dwihno> Will the LCD-off feature be in the first releases? | ||
226 | <Linus> Bagder: can you check the makefile changes for me? | ||
227 | <Bagder> the very first release is for the player | ||
228 | <Linus> I haven't written a MAS driver for the Recorder yet | ||
229 | <Bagder> Linus: yes, that makefile looks fine | ||
230 | <Bagder> does it work? ;-) | ||
231 | <dwihno> Ah, okay | ||
232 | <Linus> Good. Zagor will probably have some wierd comments on it :-) | ||
233 | <Linus> Bagder: yes it works :-) | ||
234 | <Bagder> oh he will | ||
235 | <Bagder> Zagor the code police will strike down ;-) | ||
236 | <Bagder> we need to join the rebel forces | ||
237 | * dwihno can hear the "boot sound" in his head: "R-r-r-rockbox - Open Source kickass firmware" | ||
238 | <Linus> Yeah. He's a badass moddafacka Code Cop | ||
239 | * Bagder is scared of the code police force | ||
240 | <StarFox> brb | ||
241 | <-- StarFox has quit ("Will return soon") | ||
242 | <-- Linus (~linus@labb.contactor.se) has left #rockbox | ||
243 | --> Linus (~linus@labb.contactor.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
244 | <Linus> oops | ||
245 | --> Zagor_ (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
246 | <Bagder> hey Zagor_ | ||
247 | <Zagor_> hi | ||
248 | --- Zagor_ is now known as Zagor | ||
249 | <Linus> oh no! the police! run! | ||
250 | * Bagder ducks | ||
251 | <dwihno> :D | ||
252 | <dwihno> GOOD MORNING ZAGOR! :D | ||
253 | <dwihno> Zagor: Linus has been here all day long, did you have a sovmorgon? :) | ||
254 | <Zagor> yeah | ||
255 | <dwihno> :-) | ||
256 | <dwihno> Zzzagor ;) | ||
257 | * Bagder is gonna go and have some nice shots now! | ||
258 | <dwihno> Shots? | ||
259 | <dwihno> This early? :) | ||
260 | <Bagder> as in needles | ||
261 | <Bagder> vaccine | ||
262 | --- Bagder is now known as Bagder|gone | ||
263 | <dwihno> Vaccine for what? | ||
264 | <Bagder|gone> I dunno ;-) I'll find out! | ||
265 | <Bagder|gone> I'm going to east africa this summer | ||
266 | <dwihno> Ah | ||
267 | <dwihno> Then I know which vaccine you are getting | ||
268 | <dwihno> Insanity neutralizer ;) | ||
269 | <dwihno> Nobody sane would ever go to africa | ||
270 | <dwihno> All sick mosquitos and rhinos and giraffs... That's scary stuff dude! :) | ||
271 | <Linus> Uganda? | ||
272 | --- Linus is now known as Linus|lunch | ||
273 | --- Zagor is now known as Zagor|lunch | ||
274 | --> Tumm (coyote@dreamhosted.borlange.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
275 | --- Zagor|lunch is now known as Zagor | ||
276 | --- Linus|lunch is now known as Linus | ||
277 | --- Bagder|gone is now known as Bagder | ||
278 | <Zagor> still alive, bagder? ;) | ||
279 | <dwihno> We are alive | ||
280 | <dwihno> (Paul van Dyk) | ||
281 | <dwihno> :-) | ||
282 | <Bagder> I got away pretty good ;-) | ||
283 | <Bagder> not a single shot | ||
284 | * dwihno gives everybody some newly baked bullar | ||
285 | <Bagder> had them all already ;-) | ||
286 | <Bagder> mainly just Malaria poison needed | ||
287 | * Bagder thinks ispell-complete-word rocks hard | ||
288 | * Bagder detects trouble | ||
289 | <dwihno> find / -type trouble | ||
290 | <Bagder> gaaah | ||
291 | <Bagder> May 17 10:46:22 pm1 named[27762]: exiting (due to assertion failure) | ||
292 | <dwihno> hm | ||
293 | <dwihno> named must not be stopped! | ||
294 | <Bagder> correctomente | ||
295 | <dwihno> What version of named? | ||
296 | <Bagder> wait, gotta fix this first | ||
297 | <dwihno> mkay | ||
298 | <Bagder> weirness | ||
299 | <Bagder> weirdness | ||
300 | <Linus> oh | ||
301 | <Bagder> named starts from inetd mostly | ||
302 | --> elinenbe (trilluser@bgp01080511bgs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) has joined #rockbox | ||
303 | <dwihno> fishy | ||
304 | <dwihno> ><))))8> | ||
305 | <Bagder> May 17 10:46:22 pm1 named[27762]: message.c:808: REQUIRE(*rdataset == 0) failed | ||
306 | * Bagder goes debugging | ||
307 | <-- Linus (~linus@labb.contactor.se) has left #rockbox | ||
308 | <-- elinenbe has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.6 [Mozilla rv:1.0.0+/20020513]") | ||
309 | <Zagor> gah! | ||
310 | * Zagor notes the bjorn.haxx.se http access log has grown to 460 MB since december | ||
311 | <dwihno> oh my god! :/ | ||
312 | <dwihno> <-- tries to hide his DOS attack with some vanilla sauce | ||
313 | * Zagor shops for a good log analyzer | ||
314 | <dwihno> Denial of Sås | ||
315 | <dwihno> We got analog | ||
316 | <Zagor> is it good? | ||
317 | <dwihno> then webalizer | ||
318 | <dwihno> analog is extremely configurable | ||
319 | <dwihno> webalizer produces nice graphs ;D | ||
320 | <Zagor> i'll try analog | ||
321 | <Bagder> I moved lots of files from the sim dir to the apps dir | ||
322 | <Bagder> and made the x11-simulator build again, both versions | ||
323 | <Zagor> nice | ||
324 | <Bagder> updated the activity too with the new paths | ||
325 | <dwihno> Do you have a slogan for the Rockbox project yet? | ||
326 | <Bagder> "its better to rock a box than to box a rock" | ||
327 | <Bagder> :-P | ||
328 | <dwihno> hehe | ||
329 | <dwihno> box a rock?! :) | ||
330 | <dwihno> No fun | ||
331 | <Zagor> we don't need no steeenkin slogan :) | ||
332 | <dwihno> :~( | ||
333 | <dwihno> So what can I contribute with to the project? | ||
334 | <dwihno> ascii art? :) | ||
335 | <Zagor> haha | ||
336 | <dwihno> Seriousley | ||
337 | <dwihno> I want to contribuyte | ||
338 | <dwihno> I can make new games :) | ||
339 | <Zagor> fire away. asteriods is still unclaimed :) | ||
340 | <dwihno> hehe | ||
341 | <dwihno> Tell me about the development environment and the test software you are using :) | ||
342 | <Zagor> have you read the API file? | ||
343 | <dwihno> I have ZERO files | ||
344 | <dwihno> Except from JPEG's ;D | ||
345 | <Zagor> go browse the cvs | ||
346 | <Zagor> http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/cvs.html | ||
347 | <Zagor> 180603 hits in /rockbox/ :) | ||
348 | <Zagor> plus another 30209 in /jukebox/ | ||
349 | <dwihno> juckbox :) | ||
350 | <dwihno> On monday I will place my order for a recorder! :D | ||
351 | <Bagder> that's the spirit! ;-) | ||
352 | <dwihno> Oh | ||
353 | <dwihno> I just found out monday is a day off | ||
354 | <Bagder> yeps | ||
355 | <dwihno> Luckily I found out it now, or I would have been here on monday morning :) | ||
356 | <Bagder> http://daniel.haxx.se/hexpoetry/goodies.html | ||
357 | <Zagor> yay! | ||
358 | <Bagder> it seems people keep busy with useful things ;-) | ||
359 | <dwihno> hahaha | ||
360 | <dwihno> mongo :) | ||
361 | <dwihno> baddade blodad collie | ||
362 | <dwihno> fifflade labile olof | ||
363 | <dwihno> haha | ||
364 | <Zagor> we should separate the player and recorder code, and not have everything in apps/ root | ||
365 | <Zagor> icons, bmp, tetris, screensaver etc | ||
366 | <Bagder> true | ||
367 | --> linuxstb (dave@dsl-212-23-31-215.zen.co.uk) has joined #rockbox | ||
368 | <Bagder> hi daev | ||
369 | <Bagder> dave | ||
370 | <linuxstb> Hi - what happenning to the CVS? :-) | ||
371 | <Bagder> haha | ||
372 | <Bagder> we move sources into apps that are meant for target and simulator | ||
373 | <Bagder> to have the uisimulator for simulator stuff only | ||
374 | <linuxstb> I think that's a good thing. When do you think you will be finished? | ||
375 | <Bagder> dunno, we just discussed putting the recorder-specific files in their own subdir in apps | ||
376 | <linuxstb> OK, I'll hang around here and see what happens. I'm still working at the moment, but was distracted by the CVS action. | ||
377 | <-- calpefrosch|work has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | ||
378 | <Bagder> hehe | ||
379 | <Bagder> don't expect any more work from my side today, I'm busy elsewhere atm | ||
380 | --- dwihno is now known as dw|gone | ||
381 | <Zagor> i'll be getting the simulator working with player keypad | ||
382 | <Zagor> then I plan to test it on target tonight | ||
383 | <Bagder> right on! | ||
384 | <Zagor> and polish some of the remaining issues like key polling etc | ||
385 | <Zagor> friday candy time | ||
386 | <Bagder> lots of adding and deleting today ;-) | ||
387 | <Zagor> yeah. cvs history is for wimps! :) | ||
388 | <Bagder> we don't want the history, we want the future! ;-) | ||
389 | <Zagor> hrmpf. the simulator doesn't work without lcd_update | ||
390 | <Zagor> who do I yell at? ;) | ||
391 | * Bagder hides | ||
392 | <Zagor> where is sim_lcd_puts defined? it's not in any .h .c. or .s file!?! | ||
393 | <Bagder> magic | ||
394 | <Bagder> its in lcd-x11.c | ||
395 | <Bagder> because it is #define d | ||
396 | <Bagder> so the names in the file don't have sim_ prefixes | ||
397 | <Zagor> where is it defined? | ||
398 | <Bagder> x11/chardef.h | ||
399 | <Bagder> that construction is a bit ugly | ||
400 | <Bagder> but I saw no way around it | ||
401 | <Bagder> sim_lcd_puts should just do lcd_update() by itself | ||
402 | <Zagor> but those defines are the other way. they define lcd_puts, not sim_lcd_puts | ||
403 | <Zagor> i'm confused | ||
404 | <Zagor> ah, oh.. bluearch! | ||
405 | <Zagor> damn, bagder. that's UUUUGLY! :-) | ||
406 | <Bagder> you make it better then | ||
407 | <Bagder> the problem is that it needs *both* lcd systems when simulating the player | ||
408 | <Zagor> explain it to me, what problem are you solving? | ||
409 | <Zagor> hmm | ||
410 | <Bagder> the player simulator uses the recorder-simultor code | ||
411 | <Bagder> for char output | ||
412 | <Zagor> right | ||
413 | <Zagor> gotta go. see you guys later | ||
414 | <-- Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) has left #rockbox | ||
415 | <Bagder> bye | ||
416 | <-- Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) has left #rockbox | ||
417 | --> calpefrosch|away (~hotrana@p5082C742.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #rockbox | ||
418 | <-- calpefrosch|away has quit (Client Quit) | ||
419 | --> Zagor (~bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) has joined #rockbox | ||
420 | --> elinenbe (trilluser@bgp01080511bgs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net) has joined #rockbox | ||
421 | <elinenbe> Under news on the main page there have been no updates for more than 2 weeks. Maybe it is time to place a little updat there ;) | ||
422 | <Zagor> any suggestions? | ||
423 | <linuxstb> I don't know any news, but is it possible to upload some more IRC logs (if they exist)? | ||
424 | <elinenbe> something like "The project is prgessing nicely and we offering a $10,000 (USD) prize in the DSP programming challenge... stay tuned for more information" | ||
425 | <Zagor> hehe | ||
426 | <linuxstb> :-) | ||
427 | <Zagor> that reminds me, i should submit a help request to sourceforge | ||
428 | <linuxstb> What is on the wishlist for DSP programming? | ||
429 | <linuxstb> (apart from ogg) | ||
430 | <elinenbe> wma :) | ||
431 | <elinenbe> just kidding | ||
432 | <elinenbe> how powerful is the DSP? | ||
433 | <linuxstb> I think the only sensible "wish" is uncompressed recording and playback. | ||
434 | <Zagor> pure WAV is a frequent request | ||
435 | <elinenbe> that is something that many people ask for. | ||
436 | <elinenbe> and with the recorder -- pur wav recording | ||
437 | <linuxstb> And it shouldn't be too difficult to program - if you know the hardware. | ||
438 | <elinenbe> is it possible to compile the source and run something on the actual player yet? | ||
439 | <Zagor> i'm working on that right now | ||
440 | <Zagor> having a bit of setup problems, for some reason | ||
441 | <linuxstb> Good luck - that's worth an entry in the news if you succeed. | ||
442 | <elinenbe> well, if you get something working do you think you will upload the compiled firmware? | ||
443 | <Zagor> sure | ||
444 | <elinenbe> how far away do you think you are? | ||
445 | <elinenbe> this is quite exciting. | ||
446 | <Zagor> oh, not far. this is all tested code, it's just some snag | ||
447 | <linuxstb> Changing the subject, I want to implement the mpeg playing API for the X11 simulator tonight... | ||
448 | <Zagor> the problem is my gf is coming over in just over an hour :) | ||
449 | <elinenbe> are the simulators pretty much stable right now? | ||
450 | <linuxstb> ... but am not sure where to put the files. | ||
451 | <elinenbe> well, priorities are priorities | ||
452 | <Zagor> linuxstb: why not in the x11 lib? | ||
453 | <Zagor> directory, i mean | ||
454 | <elinenbe> where do you live? Sweden? | ||
455 | <Zagor> yes | ||
456 | <elinenbe> so, it is 8pm there? | ||
457 | <linuxstb> Zagor: OK, but how should I stop it breaking the win32 simulator and the target? | ||
458 | <Zagor> the irc logs are adiamas' job, btw. i'm not sure why there hasn't been any checkins of those lately | ||
459 | <elinenbe> you should NOT go waste your time with Star Wars. The movie is awul | ||
460 | <elinenbe> awful | ||
461 | <elinenbe> I dont even know if you have it yet | ||
462 | <Zagor> linuxstb: you can't keep win32 working. don't meddle with the target files yet | ||
463 | <linuxstb> Zagor: are you asking me to wait before implementing it? | ||
464 | <Zagor> in target, yes. add it to the simulator only right now | ||
465 | <linuxstb> I thought the target and simulator shared the same code (apps/)? | ||
466 | <Zagor> some of it, yes. make a local copy of you want to test. I'm working in apps right now | ||
467 | <linuxstb> OK - no problem. | ||
468 | <linuxstb> I'll let you get back to your Archos now. Bye. | ||
469 | <Zagor> :) no problem | ||
470 | <Zagor> i can't get the player lcd to work :*( | ||
471 | <elinenbe> I cry with you | ||
472 | <elinenbe> :`( | ||
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475 | <Zagor> ooooh, I'm browsing my archos! | ||
476 | <Zagor> but only with debugf()s :) | ||
477 | <Zagor> anyone alive here, feeling like testing my app? | ||
478 | <Zagor> i'm starting to wonder if my lcd lives at all | ||
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480 | <Zagor> well, gotta go. bye all | ||
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484 | <adi|work> anyone around? | ||
485 | <PsycoXul> no | ||
486 | <adi|work> okay :)( | ||
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