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+**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 11 04:10:23 2002
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+-->     adiamas (~adiamas@216.194.26.64) has joined #rockbox
+---     Topic for #rockbox is Version 1.0 released! http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/
+---     Topic for #rockbox set by ChanServ at Tue Jun 11 03:31:20
+---     You are now known as adi|home
+<Bagder>        hey adia
+<Bagder>        nice playlsit fix
+<adi|home>      thanks :)
+*       adi|home finally did something productive
+<adi|home>      i figured 255 was a good size...
+<adi|home>      8shrugs*
+<Bagder>        yes, its fine
+<adi|home>      OH MY GOD!
+<adi|home>      rockbox.. on my recorder?!!!
+*       adi|home does backflips
+<Bagder>        does it rock?
+<adi|home>      but the text is _very_ pale
+<adi|home>      dunno yet :)
+<Bagder>        hehe
+<Linus> adi|home: the paleness is interesting
+<adi|home>      hmm problem thought
+<Linus> did you build it yourself
+<adi|home>      no.. 
+<adi|home>      its the one from the builds off the site
+<adi|home>      i don't have a cross compiler yet
+<Linus> ok
+<Linus> the LCD contrast is an issue in lcd.c
+<adi|home>      and interesting.. it dont play nice with the dc plugged in.
+<Bagder>        Linus: its not that pale on yours is it?
+<Linus> Bagder: no
+<Linus> adi|home: "play nice"?
+<adi|home>      i plug the dc in and it reboots to recharge mode
+<adi|home>      i leave it in
+<adi|home>      and press on, it reboots.. pauses, and jumps back to recharge mode
+<Linus> wow!
+<adi|home>      ?
+<adi|home>      ned to increase logo display time
+<Linus> wow! as in "what the heck"
+<adi|home>      i see it for like 1/10th a sec.. and its gone
+<adi|home>      am i the only person that has had this happ
+<Linus> adi|home: we don't want to show the logo longer time than the setup needs
+<Linus> and right now it displays a little late
+<Bagder>        Linus: why did you move the logo showing to after all the init?
+<adi|home>      got ya.
+<Linus> Bagder: because it tries to load the logo from disk
+<Bagder>        not anymore
+<Linus> i could have put it before the last two calls, and gained a millisecond
+<Bagder>        you can have it after the lcd_init() now, can't you?
+<adi|home>      okay.. off to bed for real :)
+<Bagder>        night adi|home
+<Linus> Bagder: perhaps now, but not when i committed that change
+<Bagder>        then too actually ;-)
+<Linus> oh maybe the commit mail was late
+<Bagder>        my fix was ~40 minutes before yours ;)
+<Linus> :-)
+<Linus> Then move it up!
+<Bagder>        yessir, will do!
+<Bagder>        *done*
+*       Zagor is now officially a counter-strike consultant :)
+*       Bagder hands Zagor the "professional gamer" sticker
+<dwihno>        Check the latest post in the mailing list
+<Zagor> yup, that's cool
+<dwihno>        That URL should be placed on the rockbox site.
+<Zagor> hmm. the "hardware mods" page, maybe?
+<Bagder>        yes
+<Bagder>        or possibly "related projects"
+<dwihno>        Have you seen such a joystick earlier?
+<Zagor> yes, he has mailed about it before
+<dwihno>        mkay
+<dwihno>        One of those would be cute
+<dwihno>        Although pretty useless without a display
+<dwihno>        stop/play/pause/volume perhaps
+<Zagor> you can't have a display without hacking the archos
+<dwihno>        :/
+<dwihno>        well, I guess you can't have everything
+<dwihno>        the official remote from archos, does it have display?
+<Zagor> no
+<Zagor> the remote control plug only has data-in (into the archos) so there is no way to transmit data back to the remote. that's why you can't have a display
+<Zagor> brb
+<--     Zagor has quit ("Client Exiting")
+-->     ironi (ironi@as2-5-7.j.bonet.se) has joined #rockbox
+<ironi> hi
+<ironi> Bagder: there?
+<Bagder>        yah
+<ironi> im working on a small sms thingy
+<ironi> I considered using smash as server and phpsmash as client
+<ironi> is it easy to install and configure?
+-->     Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) has joined #rockbox
+<Bagder>        never tried phpsmash
+<Bagder>        smash itself is pretty easy
+<Bagder>        the tricky part is if you want to tweak a plugin or something
+<ironi> wel the plugins you have links toon your page
+<ironi> don't say that they actually are plugins for smash
+<Bagder>        smash uses plugins
+<Zagor> links to plugins?
+<ironi> well yeah
+<ironi> freenet and so on
+<ironi> cause that is what im aiming at
+<ironi> web-based sms services
+<Zagor> yes, the links are to external programs you can call with the "shell" smash plugin
+<ironi> ok
+<ironi> so can you specify plugin to use from the client?
+<ironi> and params to the client
+<Zagor> you can specify which operator to use. the details are defined in the server config
+<ironi> ok
+<ironi> hm
+<ironi> maybe i should use linuxsms for what I am doing
+<ironi> just rebuild it a bit
+<ironi> its not very compliated thing to do
+<Zagor> that's for you to decide :) what do you want to do?
+<ironi> Zagor: a project for my fellow siemens s45/me45 users
+<ironi> im going to make a compiled wml page that they can store in the small file archive on the phone
+<ironi> in it, they will be able to enter username, password and sms number & message
+<ironi> press send and it will send it through the server
+<ironi> just trying it out for fun...
+<ironi> which gives virtually free sms through gprs
+<Zagor> i'd recommend smash for that, since it has proper queueing. you don't want to reinvent that, trust me :)
+<ironi> why not sending messages at once?
+<ironi> Zagor: becuase of the load?
+<Zagor> to save bandwith == money
+<ironi> well
+<Zagor> also many use dialup, so you want to keep down the number of calls
+<ironi> yeah money for the users, you're right
+<ironi> keep down the number of calls...now im not following
+<Zagor> most people use GSM operators' official dial-up SMS servers
+<Bagder>        but ironi isn't
+<Bagder>        he doesn't necessarily need queueing
+<Zagor> i know. but it's still a good idea to queue, to avoid many parallel connections to the service
+<ironi> Zagor: for bandwidth
+<ironi> Zagor: so gsm operators have a number one can call to send sms?
+<Zagor> that, and to avoid getting blocked for over-use...
+<ironi> How expensive is that anyway
+<Zagor> mostly it's priced the same as a mobile call
+<ironi> ok
+<ironi> well
+<ironi> smash.cgf not found
+<ironi> cfg
+<ironi> hm..
+<ironi> oh.
+<Zagor> smashd --config <file>
+<ironi> i see
+<ironi> great commenting in the smash.cfg :-P
+<Zagor> it's a hackers-only file ;)
+<ironi> i put config, smash binarys and plugins in /usr/local/bin/smash
+<ironi> maybe thats politically incorrect
+<ironi> =)
+<Zagor> that's fine
+<ironi> is smashd very resource demanding?
+<Bagder>        no
+<ironi> there it goes, up n running
+<Zagor> the one we have running has spend 2 cpu seconds since june 1st :)
+<ironi> hehe
+<ironi> well
+<ironi> now i need to send messages to it
+<Zagor> ironi: let's go to #smash instead. ok?
+<ironi> maybe easiest to send wml page to a php page, and from the php page sent it to the server
+<Zagor> woobiedooobie. i'm browsing files with Rockbox on my recorder
+<Zagor> the screen update is horrible slow :(
+<dwihno>        :/
+<Bagder>        why is that you think?
+<dwihno>        vsync? :)
+<Zagor> i don't know. i just know when i scroll down, you can see the screen clear and then redraw. and you don't see that with the archos firmware
+<Zagor> and the contrast is waaaay too low
+<Zagor> but WOWSERS the logo is cool! :)
+<Zagor> in fact, it seems Rockbox actually boots faster than the original firmware.
+<dwihno>        :O
+<dwihno>        Zagor: cool stuff
+<dwihno>        Mail the ajz to me :)
+<Zagor> http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/recorder/archos.ajz
+<ironi> now i wish i had a recorder
+<dwihno>        *awating bootup*
+<Zagor> Linus: is lower value higher contrast, or the opposite?
+<Linus> I don't know. I guess higher numbers gives higher contrast
+<Zagor> testing
+<Linus> but it's not that easy
+<Zagor> no?
+<Linus> the contrast setting (according to the solomon data sheet) is an iterative process
+<Zagor> tetris ROCKS! :)
+<Linus> you have to continue setting the contrast until the status resister says it is done
+<Zagor> oh
+<Linus> register
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